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Wis. Considers Legalizing Cat Hunting
http://apnews.myway.com ^ | Apr 12, 8:06 AM (ET) | ap

Posted on 04/12/2005 6:54:55 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican

MADISON, Wis. (AP) - Feline lovers holding pictures of cats, clutching stuffed animals and wearing whiskers faced-off against hundreds of hunters at meetings around Wisconsin to voice their opinion on whether to legalize cat hunting.

Residents in 72 counties were asked whether free-roaming cats - including any domestic cat that isn't under the owner's direct control or any cat without a collar - should be listed as an unprotected species. If listed as so, the cats could be hunted.

The proposal was one of several dozen included in a spring vote on hunting and fishing issues held by the Wisconsin Conservation Congress. The results, only advisory, get forwarded to the state Natural Resources Board.

Statewide results were expected Tuesday.

La Crosse firefighter Mark Smith, 48, helped spearhead the cat-hunting proposal. He wants Wisconsin to declare free-roaming wild cats an unprotected species, just like skunks or gophers. Anyone with a small-game license could shoot the cats at will.

At least two other upper Midwestern states, South Dakota and Minnesota, allow wild cats to be shot - and have for decades. Minnesota defines a wild, or feral, cat as one with no collar that does not show friendly behavior, said Kevin Kyle with that state's Department of Natural Resources.

Every year in Wisconsin alone, an estimated 2 million wild cats kill 47 million to 139 million songbirds, according to state officials. Despite the astounding numbers, Smith's plan has been met with fierce opposition from cat lovers.

Critics of Smith's idea organized Wisconsin Cat-Action Team and developed a Web site - dontshootthecat.com. Some argue it is better to trap wild cats, spay or neuter them, before releasing them.

In Madison, about 1,200 people attended the Monday evening meeting at the Alliant Center - more than the 250 or so in a typical year, but less than the 3,000 or so who took part in a debate in 2000 over whether to allow hunters to shoot mourning doves.

One of the attendees was Katy Francis, who wore cat ears, whiskers, a cat nose and a sign that read, "Too Cute to Kill." For Francis, "The cat hunting thing brought me out because it was very extreme."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: animalrights; cat; catchow; cathunting; catseason; environment; hunting; norwegians; uffda; vikingkitties; wisconsin; wisonsinnorwegians
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Skin, gut and fillet in one easy step

That takes far too long. Eat 'em while they're fresh!

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21 posted on 04/12/2005 7:23:02 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
LOL...I guess people who don't live out in the "Back of Beyond" have no idea how much of a threat to the bird population cats can be..
22 posted on 04/12/2005 7:24:07 AM PDT by ReeWalker (HELP!! I need a tagline!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
What?
Wisconsin Norwegians in an uproar?!!

Obligatory links.....

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The Cult of the Viking Kitties
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/883347/posts


23 posted on 04/12/2005 7:24:09 AM PDT by XR7
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

They want to trade cats for rats?


24 posted on 04/12/2005 7:31:37 AM PDT by Atheist_Canadian_Conservative
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

This is an anti-hunting proposal. It will close off more private property to hunters.

What if a hunter unknowingly trespasses on private property and kills the family cat? One incident like that will see a hundred land owners in the county nail up "no trespassing" signs.

Plus there's children in the woods playing. This isn't November deer season where people are wearing hunter orange. The chances of stray bullets hitting a kid increases. And feral cats can hang around domestic structures. Bullets flying through the kitchen window isn't appealing to me.

I can see armed confrontations between private property owners and hunters tracking the family cat.

This stupid proposed legislation will result in more "no trespassing" signs. Hunters in Wisconsin already have a difficult time finding private land to hunt on. This will aggravate a bad situation and make it worse.


25 posted on 04/12/2005 7:34:26 AM PDT by sergeantdave (“They tried to push huge filing cabinets on top of us to crush us,” cried one Greenpeace protestor.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Cat are naturally roaming and hunt many animals including birds. If songbirds can't fly away fast enough then they are dinner. My cat has been bombed by mocking birds for years and has yet to bag one. He does try. The only birds he gets are those use nest over my doorway.
Cats are especially useful in getting rid of mice, rats, and rabbits. Small vermin. They do not prey excessively against birds.

Cat also often take off their collars. My older cat gets rid of his collar in a day. I have given up trying to keep a collar on him.

Car
26 posted on 04/12/2005 7:44:10 AM PDT by Rhiannon
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

The Cat's in the Kettle at the Peking Room.


27 posted on 04/12/2005 7:44:20 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (NASSA put the first men on the moon, September 31, 1966.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

What's next, cat juggling?


28 posted on 04/12/2005 7:46:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I'm wondering why you should need a hunting permit to put down stray or feral cats?

If they are on your property and causing problems, you should have the right to shoot them.

I don't support the idea of a hunting license for cats, because I don't think you should be shooting cats on someone else's property, unless specifically asked to do so.

I also think that it it has a collar, or you know it's someone's pet, you shouldn't be shooting it. If someone's pet is causing you problems, but isn't an immediate danger, call animal control and let them deal with it.


29 posted on 04/12/2005 7:48:16 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I have taken to capturing free range cats in my backyard and taking them to the pound. They kill too many of the birds that use my feeders. I have a cat and a dog that stay inside unless I take them outside under supervision.

Neighborhood cats or dogs have no rights to crap in my yard or flower beds. Yet these cats do have owners.

The feral cats in this story should be hunted. I have had a few encounters with feral cats over the years that ended in their demise.
30 posted on 04/12/2005 7:51:14 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (NASSA put the first men on the moon, September 31, 1966.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Ask and ye shall receive...

"A cat in the kettle at the Siver Moon"

http://www.slhacker.com/downloads/Catfood.wav

NeverGore :^)


31 posted on 04/12/2005 7:52:16 AM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: Investment Biker
Dogs are shot on a regular basis. Dogs are also picked up by the pound, and we have to pay yearly taxes on them as well.
I opened my private season on cats years ago. I shoot dogs for chasing my horses, and I shoot cats for chasing my chickens. I hate chickens but keep a few around just because of the cat population.
32 posted on 04/12/2005 7:59:59 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Proud Nam Vet)
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To: Rhiannon
If songbirds can't fly away fast enough then they are dinner.

Bingo, evolution in action: Birds and other prey get faster and are more alert. When I see a pile of feathers in mmy yard, I know it was a slow bird.

My 16-year-old cat was born of feral parents and is instinctively more wary than an ordinary cat, and does help with rodent control. He likewise refuses to wear his collar.

If I had a problem with cats and their prey, it would be lizards, which are responsible for more insect control than a lot of people realize. I also wish cats could learn to control grackles and sparrows more effectively.

33 posted on 04/12/2005 8:04:05 AM PDT by Marauder
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To: sergeantdave
This isn't November deer season...

Well, I don't know about your state, but in Ohio you can hunt groundhogs etc. any time. And between the overlap of other seasons like Spring gobbler, deer, rabbit, etc. there's always someone out hunting.

And usually the reasons hunters have a hard time finding property to hunt on is because the owner had a bad experience or has friends who hunt there. Feral cats not only kill song birds and even small game birds, they carry diseases. As far as I'm concerned they're no better than skunks or raccoons. No hunting season required.

34 posted on 04/12/2005 8:06:48 AM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: sergeantdave
What if a hunter unknowingly trespasses on private property and kills the family cat? One incident like that will see a hundred land owners in the county nail up "no trespassing" signs.

In WI, if you are on private land w/o permission, you are guilty of tresspassing; signs are not required.

Plus there's children in the woods playing. This isn't November deer season where people are wearing hunter orange.

You as a hunter are to be sure of your target, cats or not. There are several hunting seasons that do not require any blaze orange be worn, and yet children playing in the woods are almost never shot.

And feral cats can hang around domestic structures. Bullets flying through the kitchen window isn't appealing to me.

And again, this is already addressed in state laws as to distance from dwellings to discharge any firearm.

can see armed confrontations between private property owners and hunters tracking the family cat. Again, tresspassing is against the law already.

Hunters in Wisconsin already have a difficult time finding private land to hunt on.

This has more to do with ant-hunters living in rural areas, than it does with anything else.

Just say you don't want cats shot, don't give a bunch of mis-information for your position.

35 posted on 04/12/2005 8:08:38 AM PDT by porte des morts
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To: nevergore
The number of Moo Shoo pork specials at local chinese resturaunts has skyrocketed....

LOL!!

36 posted on 04/12/2005 8:08:45 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Every year in Wisconsin alone, an estimated 2 million wild cats kill 47 million to 139 million songbirds poop machines

Hmmm, suddenly I'm torn on this issue. OK, expand the season to cats and birds. And how about a dime reward for each Grackle taken down.

37 posted on 04/12/2005 8:09:42 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: blueberry12
Cats don't have any natural enemies.

We don't have feral cat problems here in Nevada--the coyotes see to that.

38 posted on 04/12/2005 8:11:23 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: oldenuff2no
and we have to pay yearly taxes on them as well.

A-men to that. Why do dog owners have to fund all of animal control in so many cities and counties?

Open season on feral cats OR all pet cats have to be licensed (and tagged when off the owner's property) - either one works for me.

39 posted on 04/12/2005 8:11:46 AM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: brewcrew
It's about time we got something for the inordinate amount of taxes we pay in this God-forsaken state. (just kidding, Nanna!) 3 posted on 04/12/2005 6:56:40 AM PDT by brewcrew

Lost my job in Jan, house now for sale, we are heading back south where the taxes are 1/3 what they are here in cheese country.

40 posted on 04/12/2005 8:14:40 AM PDT by american_ranger
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