Posted on 04/13/2005 7:22:56 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
Yep
Illegal to kill feral cats = Shoot, shovel, shut up
A liberal, but I think he was right on this.
AUTHOR: Adlai Ewing Stevenson (1900–65)
QUOTATION: I cannot agree that it should be the declared public policy of Illinois that a cat visiting a neighbor’s yard or crossing the highways is a public nuisance. It is in the nature of cats to do a certain amount of unescorted roaming. Many live with their owners in apartments or other restricted premises, and I doubt if we want to make their every brief foray an opportunity for a small game hunt by zealous citizens—with traps or otherwise. I am afraid this Bill could only create discord, recrimination and enmity. Also consider the owner’s dilemma: To escort a cat abroad on a leash is against the nature of the cat, and to permit it to venture forth for exercise unattended into a night of new dangers is against the nature of the owner. Moreover, cats perform useful service, particularly in rural areas, in combating rodents—work they necessarily perform alone and without regard for property lines.
We are all interested in protecting certain varieties of birds. That cats destroy some birds, I well know, but I believe this legislation would further but little the worthy cause to which its proponents give such unselfish effort. The problem of cat versus bird is as old as time. If we attempt to resolve it by legislation who knows but what we may be called upon to take sides as well in the age old problems of dog versus cat, bird versus bird, or even bird versus worm. In my opinion, the State of Illinois and its local governing bodies already have enough to do without trying to control feline delinquency.
Ideas aren't responsible for the people who hold them. I agree with Doyle on this issue, but I don't have to agree with him on anything else. Hitler was a vegetarian, but that doesn't make vegetarians Nazis, just like not wanting cats shot doesn't make me a kumbayah, tree-frenching, peecee-er.
Common sense doesn't apply to the cat fanatics. Just the love of their sweet, lovable mr. whiskers who could never hurt a fly.
You are the clueless one. This law is designed to prevent the killing of songbirds. Cats kill birds. They also kill mice. Eliminate mouse killing and increase disease. Brilliant policy enacted by cat haters. You are absoulutely brilliant.
Ok, I am pretty sure this is not a liberal/conservative issue as much as a city/country issue.
I live in Mississippi in the woods on my 15 acres (little slice of redneck heaven.) I actually have a cat that is trying to take up here at that house and it sets off in the woods making this horrible noise all night for several nights now. I already have 4 dogs and 2 cats. I really dont care if it comes over and eats or not, but if he keeps me awake tonight, me and Mr. SKS might have to throw him a party. The same goes for a dog/fox killing my chickens or a dog that bites a human, a burglar in my house or yard or whatever else needs some killing. I dont really need permission.
The more I think about it, the more I disagree with hunting liscenses, while we're at it. Did the state put that deer on my land, bet not! Thats why I made the reference to Robin Hood, Men in tights. Just something to think about. :)
That being said, I probably wouldnt go cat hunting, unless I knew of a good taxidermist that could mount a 8 point rack on its head and make it look natural.
I'm not a cat fanatic, never owned one never will (I'm a dog lover and a hunter).
And you're right about Jim Doyle. The guy is a left-wing extremist who only holds office because of Dane County and the Milwaukee metropolitan area. In other words, a socialist.
There's only one problem here; Doyle called this one correctly, and I'll tell you why. It isn't because he understands the issue, he just got lucky (even a blind chicken finds a kernal of corn from time to time).
The problem I have with this hunt is the opportunity it will afford animal rights wacko's and anti-hunters such as PETA to press their attack on hunting. The adverse PR which will be attached to hunters will be devestating, and PETA knows it. Doyle apparently didn't see that angle, being the goof that he is. That could change.
In the meantime, I strongly urge all legitimate Wisconsin sportsmen to NOT participate in this hunt, if the bill passes. Out-of-control domestic animals are the responsibility of local animal control, not hunters.
Another case of imposing suburban and urban values on rural residents, for whom feral animals are a legitimate problem - But "Bingo" Doyle knows that rural residents won't vote for him, so he doesn't care.
Rush was right. And I'm not a cat lover.
Actually, every vegetarian I've ever met was a perfect Nazi, telling me not to do this, not to do that, interfering in my life with the vigor of Heinrich Himmler. I'd not be surprised if down the road, meat-eaters would be compelled to wear a star of David with a T-bone image on it.
"You are the clueless one. This law is designed to prevent the killing of songbirds. Cats kill birds. They also kill mice. Eliminate mouse killing and increase disease. Brilliant policy enacted by cat haters. You are absoulutely brilliant."
I guess the entire US military is run by a bunch of cat haters:
http://www.afpmb.org/pubs/tims/tim37.htm
REASONS FOR FERAL/STRAY (henceforth referred to as feral) CAT CONTROL
1. Feral cats are animals that are no longer under human control, but live and reproduce in the wild, usually in close association with humans. Humans have neglected these animals, which live exposed to disease, hunger, weather and attack from dogs, humans or other cats and animals. Some of these cats may survive for several years before succumbing to starvation, disease, dogs, other animals or motor vehicles. Failure to prevent or control a feral cat population amounts to inhumane treatment of animals.
2. Feral cats can harbor and transmit a variety of fatal and non-fatal diseases to domestic cats and other pets. These diseases include rabies, plague, parasitic worms, external parasites such as fleas and mites, feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV), feline leukemia virus (FeLV), feline distemper or panleukopenia, feline infectious peritonitis (FIP), and various bacterial infections.
3. Feral cats can also harbor and transmit fatal and non-fatal diseases to humans. These include rabies, plague, ringworm, internal and external parasites, toxoplasmosis, bartonellosis (formerly known as cat scratch fever), allergies to cat hair, and secondary bacterial infections from cat scratches and bites.
4. Feral cats living in close association with humans can also damage buildings, contaminate food supplies, and kill birds and other wildlife. Parasites such as fleas are often a problem in areas inhabited by feral cats.
Gee, guess I have the army on my side. What do you have, peta???
"The problem I have with this hunt is the opportunity it will afford animal rights wacko's and anti-hunters such as PETA to press their attack on hunting. The adverse PR which will be attached to hunters will be devestating, and PETA knows it. Doyle apparently didn't see that angle, being the goof that he is. That could change."
sorry, that's silly. I've seen other people put forth the same argument, but it doesn't make it any less silly.
Many other states have the same law they are seeking in wisconsin. Does that hurt other forms of hunting in states like minnesota? No, it doesn't. It just allows them to get rid of feral cats that kill millions of animals that belong in the wild.
I guess the best thing is how these threads have illustrated how psychotic people can become when they think it involves their pets. And also how many conservatives (even people like rush) are willing to check their brains at the door and throw logic out the window when it comes to cats.
Keep trying, you're almost witty. Almost.
I was serious; you really need some sort of help. I see this as a scream for help.
I know you like to project the image of a tough guy and attacking cats is truly a manly pursuit but maybe if you get in touch with your inner child you can accept your problems with your latent urges and accept that you're 'different'. We stand behind you all the way.
That's EXACTLY right. Heck, I never even knew it WASN'T legal.
"I know you like to project the image of a tough guy and attacking cats is truly a manly pursuit but maybe if you get in touch with your inner child you can accept your problems with your latent urges and accept that you're 'different'. We stand behind you all the way."
Um, thanks for project your insecurities. But instead you just project the sad,pathetic nature of the cat fanatics for all to see.
It has nothing to do with 'tough guy' this or 'redneck' that. It has to do with using the brain God gave you instead of emoting like a little child.
You are so simple minded you can not distinguish between your house cat and a feral cat that is damaging to the environment. Luckily, most states do. As well as the US armed forces, that has its own Feral Cat policy that includes killing the efficient little killing machines.
Forty million feral cats in the wild. Killing at least 2 birds a week. Fifty two weeks a year. And not only killing for food, killing for pleasure. If you want to talk about 'tough guys', feral cats are the the original 'tough guys'. They kill animals for no reason, and they torment their prey before finally taking their life. You need a freaking clue, pal.
killing cats is legal in many states. Heck, the US armed forces feral cat policy even includes killing them.
Unfortunately, WI is behind the times and runs by emotion instead of facts.
Yeah? Well if the cats he waxes poetically about come into MY yard, I assure you they will "mysteriously" disappear.
Apparently in some people's minds cats have more rights than people.
You're right. The feral cats around here kill birds all the time. Even though people leave cat food out 24/7. It's really gross.
Have you all seen "Pinky the Cat???"
http://gprime.net/video.php/pinkythecat
...btw...i have two INDOOR cats I dearly love...but I can understand the fears of those (especially in the suburbs and rural areas) that let their cats roam....
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