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Abortion Clinics on Edge After Manifesto
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/14/05 | Daniel Yee - AP

Posted on 04/14/2005 9:19:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: PistolPaknMama
We are all entitled to life and liberty and property and the pursuit of happiness, but we are not entitled to deprive anyone else of those things. It is a crime to, and we have a justice system set up to punish those who do.

Only God can kill indiscriminately, not man.
41 posted on 04/15/2005 10:28:34 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Has algore written another book???


42 posted on 04/15/2005 10:29:15 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Humidston

"Because I believe that abortion is murder, I also believe that force is justified ... in an attempt to stop it," Rudolph wrote."

I can't argue with that.

Using force, deadly force to protect the life of another or yourself IS the defining verbage of "Deadly Force".


43 posted on 04/15/2005 10:31:49 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: NormsRevenge
Rudolph is a criminal, plain and simple. His kind of violence is inconsistent with pro-life values.
44 posted on 04/15/2005 10:36:05 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I'm not talking about Tailand or Africa, I'm talking about the US.

Well, come here to Thailand and I will be more than happy to take you to orphanages filled with children suffering the effects of AIDS. I will also be more than happy to introduce you to people here from all walks of life who also have AIDS because of inadequate sterilization of needles and other similar reasons. Sorry, AIDS is not only a gay disease.

45 posted on 04/15/2005 10:55:35 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Semantics are hardly worth debating but there is little difference between murder and killing aside from potentially the level of malice.

"And does that make it right? Does that mean I can kill."

I personaly don't believe in killing in any form, but if you choose to recognize it as legitamite in any form; abortion, execution, terrorism, then yes it means you can kill/murder because you have justified it in your mind and will find others in the justice system, law enforcement, judges, juries, lawyers who will support you and thus you have granted yourself the ability to take life.

It happens everyday.


46 posted on 04/15/2005 11:00:56 AM PDT by crab-boy
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I never said AIDS was an exclusivly GAY disease, but you are arguing with facts. It's all right there, Gay men are most at risk for contracting AIDs in the US. And I don't want to see anyway die because they were misinformed.

And my point is, that no one deserves to die from AIDs.

You are putting words in my mouth.


47 posted on 04/15/2005 11:18:11 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: crab-boy
""Semantics are hardly worth debating but there is little difference between murder and killing aside from potentially the level of malice.""


According to your reason our justice system charging, trying, and executing the BTK killer is as wrong as him waiting watching and indiscriminately choosing some young girl to Blindfold torture and murder.

Jessica Lunsford was 9. 9 years old safely tucked in and sleeping in her own bed when she is swept away by a stranger, who takes her from her loving family. He then rapes her. And after raping this child, he buries her alive where she dies a slow horrifying death.



This isn't Semantics this is common sense.
48 posted on 04/15/2005 11:40:35 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I don't believe those examples carry the same degree of malice but both would be instances of murder.

When we hear descriptions of heinous and wicked acts carried out against one another and against the innocent it makes our stomachs turn and fills us with anger. Individually our emotions desire vengeance but collectively we need to seek justice. They are very different things.

You despise and carry ill will for all murderers and so do I but killing them makes you a murderer. I agree it is common sense.


49 posted on 04/15/2005 12:23:53 PM PDT by crab-boy
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No. One is murder and the other is killing. Killing can be justified.


50 posted on 04/15/2005 1:37:47 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: Humidston
"Because I believe that abortion is murder, I also believe that force is justified ... in an attempt to stop it," Rudolph wrote."

I can't argue with that.

The imprecatory psalms are in the Bible for a reason -- to be used by godly congregations as spiritual weaponry against evil and evildoers. I knew of a case once where a pro-abort kid appointed himself harasser of the picketers. As Christians peacefully assembled outside the abortuary, this jerk loudly read pornography to them. Finally, two brothers returned the favor, reading imprecatory psalms back. "Robin, this is how God regards his enemies," they gently explained. "Do you REALLY want to continue being an enemy of God?"

This apparently healthy 20-something guy was found dead in his bed a week later of natural causes. Actually supernatural.

51 posted on 04/15/2005 1:48:52 PM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Anything can be justified in one's own mind. I just did my taxes and made some outrageous deductions that I felt I could justify, the IRS may pass a different judgement however.

So you can support your justified killings in your own mind and not consider it the murder that I know it to be.

Consider the following:

"After five years on Louisiana's death row, Ryan Matthews received a second chance at life. He was exonerated last year with the help of DNA evidence.

"He was 17 years old at the time of his arrest and is borderline retarded," said Martha Kashickey, the public-education associate for the Innocence Project at Yeshiva University's law school in New York City.

"Post-conviction DNA testing on the mask the perpetrator left at the scene both exonerated Matthews and revealed the identity of the actual perpetrator," Kashickey said from New York City."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0408_050408_tv_dnadeath.html

If this innocent man had been killed as you desire, it would certianly be murder, how could it be otherwise.

I reject the idea of killing/murder and God will have the final judgement on us all including you.


52 posted on 04/15/2005 1:54:00 PM PDT by crab-boy
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To: Blurblogger

"U.S. Attorney Alice Martin's recommendation on the $1 million reward will be forwarded to the FBI, but the final decision is up to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales."
= = = = = = = =

Why wouldn't the local cop or city of Murphy get the million? The fbi did nothing to catch Eric.


53 posted on 04/15/2005 2:00:31 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

So who did Rudolph save?


54 posted on 04/15/2005 6:59:31 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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