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Frist Likely to Push for Ban on Filibusters Failure Risks Conservatives' Ire...
Washington Post ^ | 4/15/05 | Charles Babington

Posted on 04/14/2005 9:48:09 PM PDT by Valin

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is all but certain to press for a rule change that would ban filibusters of judicial nominations in the next few weeks, despite misgivings by some of his fellow Republicans and a possible Democratic backlash that could paralyze the chamber, close associates said yesterday.

The strategy carries significant risks for the Tennessee Republican, who is weighing a 2008 presidential bid. It could embroil the Senate in a bitter stalemate that would complicate passage of President Bush's agenda and raise questions about Frist's leadership capabilities. Should he fail to make the move or to get the necessary votes, however, Frist risks the ire of key conservative groups that will play big roles in the 2008 GOP primaries.

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In response to the rising stakes and sense of an inevitable showdown, Frist and his allies are churning out speeches, articles and talking points, and enlisting the aid of Ed Gillespie, former chairman of the National Republican Committee. Frist said he is trying to catch up to Democrats and their allies, who set up a Capitol "war room" and are spending millions of dollars on TV ads denouncing the proposed rule change -- or "nuclear option" -- as a power grab.

Frist aides said he still hopes to offer a compromise Democrats might accept, but Democrats who have spoken with him say they would be astonished if he presents something they could go along with.

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1 posted on 04/14/2005 9:48:10 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

Bill Frist is no CO Jones! For those of you not close to the southern border, the points are:

• This is a war;
• We need a leader who will ride towards the sound of gunfire;
• The time to get along is long gone;
• Let's give up on compromise in the Senate, give rudeness a chance;
• A nice quick overhaul of the judiciary via appointments of people who can and will read the Constitution for what it says, not what the ACLU thinks it would have said if they wrote it instead of the founding fathers.

I do not know about you. I am getting a call or two a week lately from the Republican Party looking for donations. What to say?

“Tell President Bush to repent and apologize for what he left undone for Terri Schiavo and letting Judge Greer kill her; tell Bill Frist I expect judges who can read the Constitution and I don’t give a damn what Boss Reid thinks. When you get those two done, call me back. Make sure you explain to your supervisor why you are not getting any donations and have a nice day.” Click.

Fight’s on, Fight’s on!


2 posted on 04/14/2005 10:02:25 PM PDT by Rodentking (http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: Valin

Captains Quarters
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/004299.php


April 14, 2005
Not. One. Dime.
Contrary to its own headline, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist plans on dawdling for weeks longer before finally addressing the issue of Democratic obstructionism on nominations for the federal bench, the Washington Post reports in its Friday edition:

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is all but certain to press for a rule change that would ban filibusters of judicial nominations in the next few weeks, despite misgivings by some of his fellow Republicans and a possible Democratic backlash that could paralyze the chamber, close associates said yesterday.
The strategy carries significant risks for the Tennessee Republican, who is weighing a 2008 presidential bid. It could embroil the Senate in a bitter stalemate that would complicate passage of President Bush's agenda and raise questions about Frist's leadership capabilities. Should he fail to make the move or to get the necessary votes, however, Frist risks the ire of key conservative groups that will play big roles in the 2008 GOP primaries.

Frist feels he has no acceptable options to seeking the rule change unless there is a last-minute compromise, which neither party considers plausible, according to senators and aides close to the situation. "I think it's going to happen," Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) said this week, although he would prefer that Frist wait to allow more legislation to pass before the Senate explodes in partisan recriminations. Aides privy to senior Republicans' thinking concur with Thune.


To hell with Frist, to hell with Thune, and to hell with the GOP if they wait until the session is half-over before finding their spine or other significant parts of their anatomy. The GOP campaigned on judicial nominations as the second-highest priority for the Senate, and the electorate rewarded them with a healthy gain of four seats, remarkable for an election in which the incumbent president won by a tight margin. After spending a record amount of money on supporting Republican candidates, the electorate has sat back and watched as the Democrats, led by Harry Reid, have uncorked one lunatic manuever after another: challenging Ohio's slate of electors, holding up Condoleezza Rice's nomination while people like Mark Dayton outright call her a liar, and attempting to extort the White House into giving up its Constitutional assignment of nominating the judges the President sees fit for Senate approval.

What has this bunch of Republican milquetoasts done? Nothing.

Why? Apparently, they've changed their priorities since the election. No longer are judicial nominations the leading priority. In fact, they've done everything they can to backpedal from the frightening spectre of Harry Reid, for Pete's sake. Now they claim that they want to pass as much legislation as they can before the vote on nominations comes up ... meaning that the judges are actually the lowest priority for Frist and his band of merry cowards.

News flash: if we can't reverse the generations-long trend of increasing judicial activism, the act of passing legislation will eventually be rendered meaningless. The judges, as we have seen, will simply continue to legislate from the bench, ignoring Congress and the Executive and transforming us from a representative democracy to a secular mullahcracy, where lifetime appointments in black robes make all the decisions for us.

That's what the Republicans warned about when they campaigned in 2002 and 2004. Now it's time to step up and do something about it -- but despite their greater numbers and a clear signal from the electorate that rejects obstructionists (see Tom Daschle's enforced retirement), the GOP suddenly quails at the thought of taking action.

I have been a loyal member of the GOP since I cast my first vote. I have worked campaigns and championed candidates well before I ever posted anything on my blog at CQ. However, with the defection of John McCain and the lack of any real response from party leadership on the issue, I have to take a stand and demand either action or accountability -- and this is the time to do it.

Not. One. Dime. The next time Ken Mehlman sends you a request for money, that's the message he needs to get back. We ponied up in 2004, and in 2002, and in 2000. The GOP not only has not delivered, its current leadership won't even try. Frist and Rick Santorum claim they don't have the votes. Balderdash -- they don't have the leadership to get the votes. I'm not going to fund or support people who won't try to win, especially when the issue is so important.

Not. One. Dime. We're not in an election year, so this makes it easy for the Republicans to get this message to party leaders. No balls, no Blue Chips, boys. I don't mean just for the Senate, either. I mean for the entire Republican party. Feeding a fever may be good medicine, but feeding a failure only makes it last longer. Perhaps hunger will work where courage has so obviously failed.

Not. One. Dime. And when a vote does come, those Republicans who wind up supporting the minority's extortion over the majority in defiance of the Constitution will never see another dime from me -- but their opponents will, at every level of contest. Honestly, with Republicans like these in the Senate, we may as well have Democrats.

Not. One. Dime. If Bill Frist can't lead the GOP, then let's get rid of him now and find someone with the stomach for it. As long as he dithers, he'll never see a dime out of me for any election. Kay Bailey Hutchinson would have more guts and could pull the troops in line better; maybe we should give her a try as Majority Leader for a while.

It's time to send a real message to the Republicans about their priorities and their lack of leadership. This fight has been brewing for months, and it should have already been resolved by now. If they can't hack it, then we will find -- and fund -- the leaders who can.

Posted by Captain Ed at April 14, 2005 10:20 PM


3 posted on 04/14/2005 10:07:57 PM PDT by Valin (Senate switchboard: (202) 225-3121 / 1-866-808-0065 toll-free)
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To: Valin

I don't think Frist has the votes yet. Sad.


4 posted on 04/14/2005 10:09:26 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Valin
The conservatives will not be upset at Frist if he fails. They will be outraged, however, if he doesn't even try.

There has to be a vote. Win, lose or draw.

5 posted on 04/14/2005 10:11:26 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge
Well, it's not much, but we conservative Republican voters need to call our Republican senators, and let them know that it's time to put up or shut up. Wouldn't hurt to call the White House, either.

A note for any interested FReepers: quite often, you won't be asked if you live in the subject senator's state. They'll just mark your call down in the tally sheet. You don't actually have to live in, say, Tennessee, or South Dakota to place a call.

Just a thought.
6 posted on 04/14/2005 10:22:38 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01

There's only about five senators worth calling, Specter, Hagel, Warner, Collins, and Snowe. Maybe I missed a couple. Maybe Nelson of Nebraska.


7 posted on 04/14/2005 10:30:22 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: FreedomSurge

That is exactly right.

I voted for Bush and spoke for Bush on this board for two reasons.

1) To keep the fight against terror in Iraq, not in our backyards.

2) To get constitutionalist judges appointed.

If the Senate won't even try to appoint conservatives, there is no reason to bother voting Republican.


8 posted on 04/14/2005 10:47:40 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: Torie

Sorry.

Here's the list per Hugh Hewitt, which seems about right to me:

Hagel (NB), Chafee (RI), Snowe (ME), Collins (ME), Sununu!(NH), Warner (VA), and Alexander (TN).

(866) 808-0065

Tell 'em it's time to put up or shut up.

John Thune could use a call letting him know that the time is now, not "after some bills have been passed".

Sen. Frist could use some spine-reinforcment, too.


9 posted on 04/14/2005 10:56:22 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: Torie
You are probably correct that he doesn't have 51 committed votes now. However, if he continues to delay calling for a vote, he allows the wavering senators to play both sides. They can complain about the filibuster by democrats but not go on the record with a vote. If he would go ahead and call for a vote, everyone would have to, as my old dad used to say, "put up or shut up". If he wins, he is in a much stronger position, with both his own membership and the senate as a whole. If he loses, he is in no worse position than he currently occupies and he has at least publicly identified those members of his caucus who can't be depended on. (It is better to be hung as a lion than as a lamb.)
10 posted on 04/14/2005 11:06:12 PM PDT by etcb
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To: absalom01

Tanks.


11 posted on 04/14/2005 11:07:33 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Valin

John McCain will vote with the rats. I'm betting McCain/Hillary in 2008 on the rat ticket.


12 posted on 04/14/2005 11:09:24 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ( .:: Johannes Paulus Magnus: "Well done, good and faithful servant!" ::.)
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To: absalom01

You should keep McConnell and Santorum on the list since they are part of the leadership that will be moving on this issue.


13 posted on 04/14/2005 11:41:21 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: FreedomSurge

Indeed - I want to see a vote - they should be forced to go on record. If anything it could be used against Dems in marginal states in 2006 to show them as the obstructionists that they are.


14 posted on 04/14/2005 11:43:47 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

No, I think the push here is to identify the RINOs.

We want them to identify themselves so we know whom to support the next primary. If they want to side with the Dems on this the voters have a right to know.


15 posted on 04/14/2005 11:50:50 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Valin
I'll wager Hillary is doing everything she can to see that Frist doesn't bring this to a vote.

I'll wager she's as good as in, if Frist wimps out.

So many Republicans just would not, could not, will not get behind the Republican party and Presidential candidate in 2008, if the Republicans in the Senate lack the balls to even try to approve decent judges.

Scary.

16 posted on 04/14/2005 11:53:59 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine)
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To: Valin
I want more than a push. I want every RINO's arm twisted way up behind their back to the back of their heads. And then I want him to make it clear that the RINO's favorite pork is history unless they vote to end judicial filibusters. A symbolic vote isn't enough where it's ok to vote the RINO's 'conscience.'

This is the whole enchilada. This is why conservatives walked precincts the last two elections. And if Frist and the White House aren't willing to knock heads to make it happen, they are not entitled to conservative support come 2006 or 2008.

17 posted on 04/15/2005 12:28:02 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Torie

Call Salazar of Colorado also. He's a rat. But he promised to support an up or down vote for Bush's judges before he was elected. He'll probably renege but it's worth a shot.


18 posted on 04/15/2005 12:29:39 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: LibertarianInExile

Hear, hear!


19 posted on 04/15/2005 12:34:09 AM PDT by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: Valin

"Democrats who have spoken with him say they would be astonished if he presents something they could go along with"


Anything less than complete control of the Senate, the Dims won't go along with. This needs to be dealt with harshly including the squelching of any bills proposed by dims and ending funding for pet dim projects


20 posted on 04/15/2005 12:58:29 AM PDT by Figment (Ich bin ein Jesuslander)
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