BJ deported Elians
Posted on 04/15/2005 2:51:22 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
One million people facing immigration procedings have been released into the general population, the government's chief of detention and removal told the Senate yesterday, prompting some Republicans to say the Bush administration is "not serious" about the problem.
"We have a million individuals who are in some phase of immigration proceedings released," said Victor X. Cerda, the acting director of detention and removal operations for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. (ICE)
He said of those people, 465,000 are fugitive aliens who have been ordered deported. About 80,000 of those are criminal aliens who have committed an offense in addition to immigration violations, but he couldn't provide an exact number.
(Excerpt) Read more at wpherald.com ...
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isn't being an illegal alien, um, ILLEGAL???
what is with the bush admin.??
What??
He said of those people, 465,000 are fugitive aliens who have been ordered deported. About 80,000 of those are criminal aliens who have committed an offense in addition to immigration violations, but he couldn't provide an exact number.
The Bush administration is "not serious" about the problem.
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NO SHEET !!!
When was the BA ever serious about this monsterous problem ???
From the article it appears it is the judges not the Bush administration that are soft on ILLEGAL immigration.
Apparently our judges don't know the meaning of word "illegal".
It was brought up, for anyone who was listening. Just with less urgency because the towers hadn't fallen yet.
a million ? is that all ?
BJ deported Elians
11 illegal aliens fail to appear for court date By Gary Emerling THE WASHINGTON TIMES Eleven illegal aliens who were released by federal authorities after a traffic stop in Fairfax County on Sunday did not show up for immigration proceedings yesterday. "None of them came back, and I think that the fact that these aliens failed to appear showed the challenges of immigration enforcement," said Manny Van Pelt, a spokesman for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. Mr. Van Pelt said about 30 percent of illegal aliens who are ordered to appear for immigration proceedings fail to show up. Of those who do appear, about 85 percent become fugitives if a judge orders them to be deported. "We know full well that the honor system doesn't work and it doesn't make our job any easier when we're trying to focus on violent criminal aliens and trying to thwart terrorism," he said. ICE officials had ordered the 11 Mexican nationals, three of whom are children, to show up for further immigration processing at the ICE agency in Northern Virginia yesterday morning. A Fairfax County police officer had found the aliens riding in a Dodge Ram van early Sunday morning when the officer had stopped the vehicle for making an illegal U-turn in Annandale. That morning, ICE officials processed the aliens, but later released them and told them to appear at the ICE offices yesterday. Officials had said they did not know where the aliens were staying in the meantime. There are about 465,000 fugitive illegals nationwide, Mr. Van Pelt said. ICE officials deported 157,281 aliens nationwide last year, he said. "In this case, none of these aliens were criminals or threats to national security," he said. "We're committed to enforcing immigration law, but do we go after terrorists or gangs like [Mara Salvatrucha] to keep another 9/11 from happening, or do we go after day laborers? It's a challenge that requires balance and prioritizing." Federal authorities will now issue a notice that will be sent to an address the aliens had given to ICE officials. If the aliens do not show up at any immigration proceedings, a judge will issue an order for their deportation. The illegals will have 30 days to appeal the deportation ruling before federal authorities input the aliens' personal information into the National Crime Information Center as "fugitive absconders." Any law-enforcement officials who come in contact with them would be allowed under the law to detain them until they are turned over into ICE custody and eventually deported. Virginia state law allows local law-enforcement officials to only detain illegal aliens if they are suspected of a crime, have been previously convicted of a felony or have been previously deported or left the U.S. and returned illegally. However, once the aliens are declared fugitives, any law-enforcement official can detain them and turn them over to ICE. "They essentially forfeit their right to due process and if law enforcement comes in contact with them, they will be apprehended and placed into detention until they are removed," Mr. Van Pelt said. The non-appearance by the 11 illegal aliens yesterday did not surprise state lawmakers. "It seems so obvious to me that no one would show up," said Delegate David B. Albo, Fairfax County Republican. "It just highlights how much the federal government has completely dropped the ball on this whole issue. They get their hands on 11 [aliens] and they can't even grab them and throw them out of the country." Delegate Jeffrey M. Frederick on Wednesday didn't expect the illegals to return for yesterday's court date. "Yeah, right," the Prince William County Republican said. "When are we going to stop encouraging illegal activity?" Delegate Vivian E. Watts, Fairfax County Democrat, said Wednesday the law limiting local officials in detaining illegal aliens is necessary to prevent illegals from being victimized by other criminals. "The issue there is while you could be deported based on a felony record, in this instance, these individuals have not committed any felony," Mrs. Watts said. "If immigrants fear that they can be deported then they are very vulnerable to being victimized by people who are committing crimes" because they would not go to the police. • Christina Bellantoni contributed to this report.
Have no fear, the sub subcommitte is having a committee on the issue.
I'm sure you had some terrific points...but geesh, formatting is your friend.
We aren't going to take this crap anymore, pure and simple.
We DONT CARE (Democrat or Republican Administration alike), whomever and whichever (party) is allowing this reprehensible border, national security and social infrastructure situation to continue.
All lot of us don't care anymore and we arent influenced by lame Republican excuses for the last five years any more than we were influenced by lame Democrat excuses for the previous eight years.
The issue of millions of illegal aliens in this nation, crossing by the hundreds nightly, and released by ICE across the board, and our taxes supporting this travesty, and our neighborhoods filing up with the likes of M-13 and Mara Salvatrucha, is not an issue of "Faith" in the President. It is a matter of "No More Illusions" re: the situation and zero tolerance for any more lame excuses.
"11 illegal aliens fail to appear for court date By Gary Emerling THE WASHINGTON TIMES Eleven illegal aliens who were released by federal authorities after a traffic stop in Fairfax County on Sunday did not show up for immigration proceedings yesterday. "None of them came back, and I think that the fact that these aliens failed to appear showed the challenges of immigration enforcement," said Manny Van Pelt, a spokesman for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. Mr. Van Pelt said about 30 percent of illegal aliens who are ordered to appear for immigration proceedings fail to show up. Of those who do appear, about 85 percent become fugitives if a judge orders them to be deported."
Duh?..........DUH????????????
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH????
I read this, yet I still cannot believe what I am reading.
I'm glad you agree with the content, though. Actually, it was not that long to not be formatted. I've seen worse! Thanks again for supporting us on the concept of zero tolerance of the continued situation on border integrity.
I knew it would go this way when earlier in the week, even after the article said all of them were of illegal status, that, upon having their hearings yesterday (which never occured of course), that an I.C.E. official was actually quoted as saying the 11 "might" be deported.
"Might?" Since when is deporting an optional issue when a violator of federal law is apprehended?
It is out of frikkin control.
Many people will raise holy hell in DC on this on 25 April, though.
""Might?" Since when is deporting an optional issue when a violator of federal law is apprehended?"
If you or I violated federal law, "might" would not enter the equation. It is at least ostensible then, that illegal immigrants have more rights than you and I.
Like the kings of old, he only knows what his chief adviser, Karl Rove tells him. And my guess is that Karl is telling him there are no illegals in America. Any other explanation makes him look like a one world promoter, which we know he is not. Not!
You took the words right out of my mouth!
Heaven help any of us CITIZENS who might run afoul of the law, even unintentionally. And that grows more and more likely with the oppressive maze of often contradictory laws and regulations under which we currently live.
The worst thing is, any CITIZEN who dares to do anything about the problem is immediately branded a "racist" or a "vigilante" by the media, or, in the case of the Minutemen Project, by the President himself.
Disgusting, beyond mere words.
When Bush calls unarmed senior citizens with no criminal records " vigilantes" something has got to give. There are many cities here in California where it is no longer safe to drive at night, as the illegals control the streets.
From reading the title, I thought this was going to be a scrappleface thread :(
"I'm beginning to think Bush doesn't know anything about illegals coming to America. He said he never reads a newspaper or watches TV news shows, or listens to news on the radio."
I would like to believe that, swampfox, but it defies credulity that our President is that far removed from reality. And if he is, only God can help us.
Barkeep, make that a triple...........
Can someone please tell me WTF Bush is doing ?
Hes making me have regrets i never had to have before !
Ooops, I forgot. The I.C.E. and our border policy is part and parcel of the federal government under a Republican Administration. So were supposed to shut up and not say anything, and wait until a Democrat is the the White House before we can sound off. /sarc
Nightmare??? It's a farkin' outrage!
Apparently our judges don't know the meaning of word "illegal".
Sorry, beekay, you and everyone else who are so willing to give GW a "pass" on this one, are ignoring the facts
(See photo, with sign on desk)
He does NOT have to worry about getting re-elected, so what is he F'N waiting for? Another 9-11?
The further dumbing down of America by G.W. Bush, on purpose..
Soon America will be too dumb to know or care about Global Government some other travesty and/or the prevalent socialism... Canadians are abject cowards to rise up against their government, evidently Americans are too..
It seems to working.. too..
soon the 2nd amendment will be only for hunting or target practice and not to make revolution LEGAL... all the gun rights orgs. just want to HAVE them.. WHY?.. target practice.?. Don't answer you know the answer.. I do too..
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
"The Congress shall have Power to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections
BUMP - Must read thread.
I really believe this is the issue that could catalyze a real third party movement in the US. If we have some event, another terror attack, or rioting, or some horrible crime , and it's shown to be directly related to illegals and our lack of border security, the great majority will finally say ENOUGH and sweep away from office anyone who stands in the way of getting control of this problem.
I cannot wait for this 16-year Clinton administration to end.
Stammering, stuttering and pandering.
"makes him look like a one world promoter, which we know he is not. Not!"
Get your head out of the sand!
Bush was born and raised in a family that has been against us being an independant nation since before the Revolution.
He's a one world socialist and a northeast liberal that just happens to live in Texas.
Have you never heard of sarcasm. my friend? Example: Algor is an intelligent politician who should have been president. NOT! Get it?
It's really fun for someone on FR to tell me to get my head out of the sand concerning GB. Usually, I am about 2 inches away from being termiinated by the Republicans here for being so anti immigration, and pointing the finger at the man responsible, George Bush - and add Karl Rove to that.
It is should be a nightmare. Unfortunately, it is reality, and not TV!
We just have to pay for it all...including the greedy numbnuts in DC, who want cheap grass service! 
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