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(Norway) We're Rich, You're Not. End of Story. (poverty thru welfare)
The New York Times ^
| 16 apr 2005
| BRUCE BAWER
Posted on 04/16/2005 4:32:04 PM PDT by TWohlford
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Once again we see the welfare state staying alive thru deception and shared poverty.
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posted on
04/16/2005 4:32:04 PM PDT
by
TWohlford
To: TWohlford
This was in the New York Times????
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posted on
04/16/2005 4:33:22 PM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: Tribune7
Yes, this was the NYT.
However, the author is not a staff writer.
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posted on
04/16/2005 4:34:04 PM PDT
by
TWohlford
To: TWohlford
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posted on
04/16/2005 4:40:18 PM PDT
by
martin_fierro
(Been there, done that, got the refrigerator magnet)
To: 68 grunt; beckysueb; Born Conservative; Charles Henrickson; cinives; Constantine XIII; dennisw; ...
Ping for the Norway ping list.
You know, this is something about which I have always wondered.
I've always watched the statistics, and of course am influenced by the "mainstream media" (i.e., the "'America bad, everybody else good' media"), but I have always been left wondering.....what is the truth?
Of course, many of my impressions about life in the Paradise of the Workers and Peasants (Ukraine and Russia) were immediately demolished upon first meeting the sanitary facilities.....in the airplane, even before I got over there.
One suspects that life is actually pretty good in Norway and all that, but not as good as the "image."
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:10:34 PM PDT
by
franksolich
(never loses any sleep over the DUmmies)
To: TWohlford
Come on get real! Put into perspective, Norway has 4.5 million people, all the North Sea oil, and virtually no minorities. Of course Socialism works under this criteria.
Socialized Medicine works great under this system also.
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:17:18 PM PDT
by
BIGZ
To: BIGZ
Norway has 4.5 million people, all the North Sea oil, and virtually no minorities.Boy, how I envy them. No Mexicans taking over their country. Norway may be poor but they are abour 100 times smarter than the US.
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:21:37 PM PDT
by
swampfox98
(Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
To: TWohlford
To: TWohlford
Socialism and Communisim, the opiate of liberals
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:24:00 PM PDT
by
feedback doctor
(God wants to write His law upon the hearts of all)
To: BIGZ
Of course Socialism works under this criteria. Socialism can only appear to succeed for a temporary amount of time. Where socialism starts from scratch it fails miserably and usually results in brutal dictatorship. In the instances where democracies think they can vote themselves the treasury, socialism starts off great (from the fruits of capitalism), but rapidly is not self-sustaining. It then becomes more radically socialist to try to fix itself, then it leads to brutal dictatorship
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:29:24 PM PDT
by
feedback doctor
(God wants to write His law upon the hearts of all)
To: TWohlford
This Articles stinks. The name of the study is not given, nor a link to where it might be found.
What was the methodology?
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:34:33 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: TWohlford
...the welfare state staying alive thru deception and shared poverty.It does appear that way. These were the last two paragraphs from the article:
Meanwhile, the references to Norway as "the world's richest country" keep on coming. An April 2 article in Dagsavisen, a major Oslo daily, asked: How is it that "in the world's richest country we're tearing down social services that were built up when Norway was much poorer?"
Obviously, this is one misconception that won't be put to rest by a measly think-tank study or two.
To: Publius6961
The Timbro report has been posted to FR multiple times. Do a search.
To: feedback doctor
then it leads to brutal dictatorship
It will be really interesting to see how the Socialist experiment in Scandinavia ends.
I am not familiar with the population demographics, but if they had a baby boom after WWII the end could be very very soon.
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:42:18 PM PDT
by
cgbg
(Fire the Trustees of the Social Security Trust Fund with no money in it!)
To: feedback doctor
Total satire my friend, from a total Freeper.
Norway is not Socialistic in the true sense and as long as the oil holds out it will have a viable economy.
The Media in it's desire to denigrate the US holds Countries such as Norway in high esteem to push the success of socialism.
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:44:05 PM PDT
by
BIGZ
To: BIGZ
According to eurotwit, they have a lot of Muslims now.
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:45:25 PM PDT
by
expatpat
To: BIGZ
That's what I've always suspected; that the mainstream media likes to create these "Edens" to compare with America.
As for Norway having a lot of Muslims, the number (according to eurotwit) is still small; however, that it is growing is of concern. It is nothing like, for example, Sweden, where the Moslems control a couple of the major cities now--also Norway is somewhat more, uh, vigorous in expelling "undesirable aliens" than we are.
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posted on
04/16/2005 5:48:36 PM PDT
by
franksolich
(never loses any sleep over the DUmmies)
To: TWohlford
And they drive around in wrecks. In 2003, when my partner and I took his teenage brother to New York - his first trip outside of Europe - he stared boggle-eyed at the cars in the Newark Airport parking lot, as mesmerized as Robin Williams in a New York grocery store in "Moscow on the Hudson."If they want a real shock, they should visit Tokyo. The average Japanese car on the street in Tokyo is much nicer than anywhere else I have visited.
To: swampfox98
"Boy, how I envy them. No Mexicans taking over their country. Norway may be poor but they are abour 100 times smarter than the US." I think I'd prefer Mexicans to Muslims, which is the case in Scandinavia.
To: TWohlford
Yah, boot, all da free lutefisk you can eat has to count fer sumptin!
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posted on
04/16/2005 8:01:46 PM PDT
by
ApplegateRanch
(The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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