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The missing pieces - (George Lakoff "reframing" liberals' religious "messages"-ZOTable agenda)
REDSTATE.ORG ^ | APRIL 15, 2005 | TREVINO

Posted on 04/17/2005 11:20:36 AM PDT by CHARLITE

George Lakoff [http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/people/lakoff] is the self-appointed guru [http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml] who has helped create and feed the Democratic frenzy over "framing [http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/]," which is code for revamping rhetoric once ideas and people have repeatedly failed. To which one says: good luck with that.

If the Dems can win an election touting higher "civilization fees" in lieu of taxes, then the American people deserve them in high office. Reality and history will not be so kind to Lakoff: as a man once noted, ideas have consequences [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0226876802/102-5211570-0496 146?v=glance], and the language you dress them up in does little to affect that.

It's noteworthy that long before modern conservatism began advancing its lexicon in the public discourse, its core ideas had spent the previous few decades under development and debate. The American left is indeed purchasing real estate in the vale of tears if it seeks to advance directly to square B through "framing." The irony here, as dKos regular Armando noted to me this past weekend, is that Lakoff is directly responsible for one of the worst bits of framing to afflict the Dems in recent memory: the casting of the GOP as the "strict father" party, and the portrayal of the Democrats as the "nurturant mother" party.

The idea was that voters liked dear mum more -- warm cookies, no paddlings! -- but guess who they wanted in their corner in wartime? Turned out to be dad and his quick temper and his rules.

Lakoff family dynamics as policy: bad move. Negative effect on Lakoff's standing: zero. So in the happy interim between idea and consequence, Lakoff is taking his celebrity to the fetid watering-hole of the modern Democratic Party:the Daily Kos, where, like most of the party eminences (more on this in a bit), he is casting his pearls of wisdom [http://dailykos.com/story/2005/4/15/2016/11711] before the swine online.

And this bit of -- well, framing -- cast as an enunciation of core Democratic principles, jumped out at me: "We want to protect life all the way from birth up until the edge of death.

Indeed. What's missing here? Why not value and protect life on "the edge of death"? Why not value and protect life before birth? Not long before, mind you: five minutes or so will do. I leave it to the intrepid reader to draw inferences as he will. For my part, I will be generous and say that despite the failings of his one big idea, Lakoff has here captured, framed and hung a core principle of the Democratic Party and the American left with admirable and awful clarity.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agenda; berkeley; democrat; foolingvoters; georgelakoff; liberal; principle; professor; progressives; reframing; religious; revampingrhetoric
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1 posted on 04/17/2005 11:20:37 AM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
I love how the Dems get all flat-footed when they try to frame their message.

If you can't just SAY your message, you know your message is one people don't want to hear. Shouldn't that tell you something? Dopes.

2 posted on 04/17/2005 11:23:59 AM PDT by Darkwolf (Anti-Death Yankee Agnostic Free-Speech Advocate Movie Music Fan)
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To: CHARLITE

Lakoff in a nutshell, "How can we fool them into voting democrat?"


3 posted on 04/17/2005 11:24:22 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Democrat or Communist? Is there a difference?)
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To: Darkwolf

Lakoffs advice to dems...LIE!


4 posted on 04/17/2005 11:26:01 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Democrat or Communist? Is there a difference?)
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To: Ron in Acreage

Is he the leftist Karl Rove from a parallel dimension? I think I saw that Star Trek episode.


5 posted on 04/17/2005 11:29:32 AM PDT by RepublicMan4U
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To: CHARLITE
"And this bit of -- well, framing -- cast as an enunciation of core Democratic principles, jumped out at me: "We want to protect life all the way from birth up until the edge of death."

Well now. After decades of deconstructing the language to further a political agenda, liberals have now found themselves face-to-face with a linguistic "construct" they can't quite dig themselves out of. Indeed, it appears that most human beings believe that the word "life" doesn't really have much to do with starving disabled people in public and lopping the heads off the unborn.

What to do?

6 posted on 04/17/2005 11:34:53 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Darkwolf

They're sheeple .. Hillary has done well in convincing 10-15% of the public that she is "moderate" and slightly to the right. After all the junk and trash this woman has said in the past - it just all flew out the window.

However .. we at FR are not going to allow the public to forget what she said in the past.


7 posted on 04/17/2005 11:38:50 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Ron in Acreage

Politicians lie?

Surely you jest.

(And that goes for both sides, but just the demonicrats.)


8 posted on 04/17/2005 11:42:31 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (This tagline brought to you by Islam. Islam, only the best of the 12th century for you and yours.)
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To: CHARLITE

This is very funny and well-written. I'll have to pay attention to this writer in the future.


9 posted on 04/17/2005 11:45:06 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Darkwolf

What this over-rated bloat is saying about 'framing' is nothing more than 'defining the issues.'

The basic idea is valid but it is nothing new, and nothing that politicians haven't been doing reasonably deliberately since time began.


10 posted on 04/17/2005 11:49:44 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
"The basic idea is valid but it is nothing new, and nothing that politicians haven't been doing reasonably deliberately since time began."

Indeed. And Democrats have been doing it, too.

Only now are they sufficiently worried to consult an academic nihilist to see if they can do better.

11 posted on 04/17/2005 11:51:29 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: CyberAnt
"However .. we at FR are not going to allow the public to forget what she said in the past."

Absolutely. We have to be relentless in reminding voters that this woman is and has always been a far left socialist. She wrote her Wellesley College Senior thesis on Saul Alinsky!........and has been following his principles ever since. I should know. I graduated from Wellesley College.

Char


"We are going to take things away from you for the common good."

12 posted on 04/17/2005 11:53:51 AM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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To: CHARLITE

How many times can they keep repackaging Marxism until NOBODY takes it seriously anymore.


13 posted on 04/17/2005 11:59:34 AM PDT by spinestein
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To: spinestein
"........repackaging Marxism!"

That's exactly it. I mean, how utterly ridiculous can it get when they start talking about taxes as "civilization utility fees?!!" Next thing you know, they'll call the IRS "The Societal Participation Club."

14 posted on 04/17/2005 12:03:23 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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To: CHARLITE

With Howard Dean at the helm, the Dems appear to use insults as means of trying to win voters.

I actually like the "Mommycrats" and "Daddycans" analogy.


15 posted on 04/17/2005 12:08:39 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

it seems to me that if a message MUST be deliviered in some kind of slick packaging, one can assume the orator believes there is either something wrong with the message or something wrong with the intended audience.

either way, by taking up with "framing" the Democrats have delivered themselves up, bound and gagged and helpless, for evisceration in the next election cycle.

Idiots.


16 posted on 04/17/2005 12:09:58 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout

I think the problem has been that the 'rats are prevented from massaging their message by the hardcore leftists and death-culture radicals who rule the candidate selection process.


17 posted on 04/17/2005 12:44:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

when they lie down with dogs...


18 posted on 04/17/2005 12:48:46 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout; hinckley buzzard

19 posted on 04/17/2005 2:18:26 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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To: CHARLITE

I like it! Sort of captures their essence...


20 posted on 04/17/2005 3:09:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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