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Atheists and Their Fathers
www.probe.org ^ | 2002 | Kerby Anderson

Posted on 04/17/2005 3:15:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: stacytec
One can have faith in the existence of something without having tangible evidence or knowledge of the object of faith

How and why?

141 posted on 04/20/2005 8:08:44 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
There is no way to prove that God doesn't exist. A person can only say they believe or disbelieve.

Agree completely.

Note: Saying there MIGHT be a god .

If that was me saying that, I would add, "but I sure hope not, 'cause if there is,,,oh boy am I going to get it now!"

:^}

142 posted on 04/20/2005 8:11:30 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: Protagoras

An atheist arguing religion with a theist is illogical. An atheist has no dog in that fight. It's like a person who doesn't believe in UFO's going to a UFO convention. There is only one reason to go; to seek the evidence to change their belief.


143 posted on 04/20/2005 8:16:06 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Rembrandt_fan

I noticed Donald Sutherland was on the list, but not Jack Bauer. Interesting.


144 posted on 04/20/2005 8:19:28 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: MineralMan

Have a good laugh ping.


145 posted on 04/20/2005 8:22:01 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: AppyPappy
An atheist arguing religion with a theist is illogical. An atheist has no dog in that fight.

Again, I agree completely.

And it also explains why believers are always debating and disagreeing with each other, they all have a lot at stake.

I had a pastor once who explained to the kids in the youth group that Christians argue with each other because they are like a family. You don't care if the kid on the next block acts like a goof, but you sure care if your brother or sister does.

I feel sorry for atheists. (even though they disdain my sympathy) After all, it's not their fault.

A person cannot force themselves to believe something they actually do not believe in their heart. Something may happen to change their beliefs, but if not, they are stuck.

146 posted on 04/20/2005 8:31:28 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: Protagoras
I had a pastor once who explained to the kids in the youth group that Christians argue with each other because they are like a family.

I actually like that.

147 posted on 04/20/2005 8:32:49 AM PDT by biblewonk (John 2:4 "Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me?...)
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To: AppyPappy
The vast majority of them are anti-Christians.

My psych prof told me something a long time ago:

In the seafaring days, we hear all these stories of dolphins pushing sailors of sunken ships to shore, saving their lives. From this, the dolphin has garnered a reputation for being friendly to people, purposely nudging people to shore to save them. But I proffer this: What if the dolphins just like to play? What if they nudge the sailors in any old direction, most out to sea to drown, some accidentally to land to survive. Would you know of those they sent to drown? You only hear the stories from the survivors, so you think dolphins are good.

The point is, don't think mosts atheists are anti-Christian because that's what you hear a lot. Most atheists are just regular people and have neither time nor inclination to go on crusades against Christianity, and you don't hear from them. You probably worked with many atheists and never knew it.

148 posted on 04/20/2005 8:33:04 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: AppyPappy
An atheist arguing religion with a theist is illogical. An atheist has no dog in that fight. It's like a person who doesn't believe in UFO's going to a UFO convention. There is only one reason to go; to seek the evidence to change their belief.

Let's flip that around to the subject of this thread. Why do Christians find the need to meddle in atheist affairs, and to bash them like this article does?

149 posted on 04/20/2005 8:35:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Protagoras
I feel sorry for atheists. (even though they disdain my sympathy)

Of course we do, since it's condescending. It's that attitude that leads to a lot of atheist backlash against the religious.

"Something may happen to change their beliefs, but if not, they are stuck remain free."

150 posted on 04/20/2005 8:42:21 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Junior

"Jesus Christ existed according to Christian Scripture. Vishnu existed (or exists) according to Hindu Scripture."

He existed its in the book we wrote look it up people.


151 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:32 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

Gandalph existed in the books J.R.R. Tolkien wrote. Also, punctuation is your friend.


152 posted on 04/20/2005 8:50:34 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: biblewonk
I actually like that.

I'm actually happy. :^}

153 posted on 04/20/2005 8:54:41 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: Beth528

Mickey Dolenz and Adam Corolla?

Some heavy hitters there! <sarcasm


154 posted on 04/20/2005 8:56:44 AM PDT by subterfuge
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To: Junior

I was actually lifted that from a David Cross bit. I agree with you. Maybe I should have mentioned that it was sarcasm. Sorry about the lack of punctuation.


155 posted on 04/20/2005 9:02:27 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Of course we do, since it's condescending.

Actually, that's only your perception, but why does it matter?

It's that attitude that leads to a lot of atheist backlash against the religious.

I don't care about your backlash. Why would it be important to you anyway? After all, nothing matters in the end.

My "action" of condescending to you has no consequences for me.

"Something may happen to change their beliefs, but if not, they are stuck,,,,,, in a hopeless situation where there is no meaning to anything and nothing matters."

It's a matter of perspective.

If there is no God, nothing matters in the end, but if there is, what could possibly matter more?

156 posted on 04/20/2005 9:02:53 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: Junior
Jesus Christ existed according to Christian Scripture.

And other sources as well.

In fact, there is more evidence for his existence than many other historical figures who's existence is never questioned.

157 posted on 04/20/2005 9:05:49 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: Junior

Jesus Christ existed because he was real. Vishu was not, or is your central crux of your argument that Christ was made up by everyone as well and just a work of fiction? Going to be a hard argument since the central theme of his life was his death.


158 posted on 04/20/2005 9:17:53 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: elfman2
He’s about as relevant to my life as Orville Wright.

I'm curious. Have you never been on an airplane?
159 posted on 04/20/2005 9:45:07 AM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: subterfuge

After posting those names I got a really nice letter from a poster that was Atheist and is now a Christian.
I for one belive the names on that list.George Soro's for one..


160 posted on 04/20/2005 9:48:03 AM PDT by Beth528
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