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To: GreenOgre
I find it hilarious. Does this qualify as Friendly Fire?

I think its disgracful that people are standing around here cheering her death because she was an anti-war humanitarian. Lots of humanitarians are anti-war, the pope himself made comments against the iraq war. Its one thing to disagree with these people, but to condemn her instead of the TERRORIST SUICIDE BOMBER WHO KILLED HER is ridiculous. Its the terrorist who should be condemned.
130 posted on 04/17/2005 6:24:31 PM PDT by neptune235
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To: neptune235

" I think its disgracful that people are standing around here cheering her death because she was an anti-war humanitarian"

You are mistaken. We are not cheering her death. It was tragic. I do not respect her, however. Too bad she's dead and too bad she participated in traitorous activities.


136 posted on 04/17/2005 6:27:11 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: neptune235

The Pope wasn't working on compiling video "evidence" of American "atrocities" against Iraqi civilians to use as propaganda for leftist fundraising...


137 posted on 04/17/2005 6:27:59 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: neptune235


She was not "anti-war"

She was a Commie and a Che-loving Terrorist partner/enabler/financier


She was also in Afghanistan - helping to kill one of my cousins in the US military


She succeeded - 3 died + a CIA agent


Note that Benjamin keeps out hot zones now


140 posted on 04/17/2005 6:32:49 PM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WhiteCliffsOfDover.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot -)
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To: neptune235
"but to condemn her instead of the TERRORIST SUICIDE BOMBER WHO KILLED HER is ridiculous."

LOL

As if she would have done the same. Is it tragedy she died? Not really. She is in a war zone. Is it a pitty? I suppose one could look at it like that. Then again the irony is that she was killed by the very people she directly or indirectly was trying to help.

I wonder if she wept for soldiers of her own country who died fighting the same people who killed her?

Don't you?
141 posted on 04/17/2005 6:32:50 PM PDT by baystaterebel (F/8 and be there!)
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To: neptune235
"but to condemn her instead of the TERRORIST SUICIDE BOMBER WHO KILLED HER is ridiculous."

LOL

As if she would have done the same. Is it tragedy she died? Not really. She is in a war zone. Is it a pitty? I suppose one could look at it like that. Then again the irony is that she was killed by the very people she directly or indirectly was trying to help.

I wonder if she wept for soldiers of her own country who died fighting the same people who killed her?

Don't you?
142 posted on 04/17/2005 6:32:51 PM PDT by baystaterebel (F/8 and be there!)
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To: neptune235
"...because she was an anti-war humanitarian."

Let me help you with that -- she was only anti-war when America was fighting the war. If Castro wants to murder people in Angola, she's not "anti-war." Nor is she "anti-war" if islamists, communists or any other enemy of America wants to engage in war. Her "humanitarianism" is highly selective. When Saddam was torturing and murdering hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and gassing others to death, she wasn't too concerned.

Ever wonder why?

144 posted on 04/17/2005 6:36:17 PM PDT by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: neptune235
Though it be a harsh thing to believe, I do believe that any event that finds its way to eliminating an enemy of freedom, capitalism and the West, is a good and providential event.

The irony of two forces, acting in two different ways, seeking to eliminate a third entity, but resulting in "friendly fire", that irony is quite delicious.

Such are the quirky ways of fate and karma.

152 posted on 04/17/2005 6:44:02 PM PDT by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: neptune235
From John Leo --

    August 2, 2002

Media critics now play 'gotcha' on the net

When The New York Times ran a front-page report on civilian casualties in Afghanistan ("Flaws in U.S. Air War Left Hundreds of Civilians Dead"), bloggers descended on the article like ants on a picnic.

Bloggers, Web loggers who run commentary and stray thoughts on their own Internet sites, like to play "gotcha" with the established media. A favorite target is the Times, which has developed the habit of running front-page editorials posing as news reports. Hundreds of civilians dead? Don't that many civilians perish in nearly every war? Stuart Buck at www.stuartbuck.blogspot.com asked: "Has there ever been another war in history where civilian casualties were so few that journalists could track down virtually all of them individually?"

On his site, The Politburo, blogger Michael Moynihan noted that the Times' source for the toll of 812 dead was Marla Ruzicka, identified as a field worker in Afghanistan for Global Exchange, "an American organization." What the Times didn't say, Moynihan wrote, is that Global Exchange is a "far-left" group that opposes globalization and the U.S. military. Ruzicka, he said, is a fan of Fidel Castro's Cuba and the winner of an award from "the Marxist group Refuse and Resist."

Oddly, after deciding to run a shaky article on civilian deaths, the Times seemed to take it all back, reporting that the "extraordinary accuracy of American air strikes" has produced few of the disasters seen in previous wars. If that's true, why run the article? The Times also featured a series of artistic photos of children wounded in the war, titled "A Legacy of Misery." This is the way the Times expresses its resistance to the war -- equating the liberation of Afghanistan with misery, pain and dead civilians.

The mighty Times may not have noticed that a lot of bloggers -- some with small reputations, some with no reputations at all -- now swarm over its news columns searching for errors and bias. The established media learned long ago how to marginalize critics and shrug off complaints of bias as the ravings of right-wing fanatics.

But the bloggers aren't so easily dismissed. They don't bluster. They deal in specifics and they work quickly, while the stories they target are fresh. They link to sources, to one another's sites, and to the articles under attack, so readers can judge for themselves. The blogging revolution, says commentator Andrew Sullivan, the best-known blogger, "undermines media tyrants."

On June 16, a startling front-page article in the Times reported that Alaska's mean temperature rose 7 degrees over the past 30 years. Sullivan checked with Alaska weather authorities and wrote that the Times figures were greatly exaggerated. The Times published a correction, stating that Alaska temperatures rose 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit, not 7, over the past 30 years. But the Alaska Climate Research Center said the correction was incorrect. The Times correction of 5.4 degrees was still double the real temperature increase.

Sullivan argued that the Times had "cherry-picked" data for maximum effect, measuring the 30 years between 1966, one of the century's four coldest years, and 1995, one of the hottest. A report from the Center for Global Change said Alaskan temperatures did not rise consistently over the 20th century -- the pattern was back and forth: warming until 1940, cooling until the 1960s, then warming again.

Sullivan was also one of the bloggers who attacked the anti-Bush polling story run by the Times on July 18 under the headline "Poll Finds Concerns That Bush Is Overly Influenced by Business." That story seemed like an attempt to turn a poll favorable to the president into a vague vote of no confidence. The story focused on a "surge" of Americans who think the country is on the wrong track.

But Sullivan noted that the poll found Bush's approval rating remaining very high at 70 percent, while 68 percent agreed that the president "cares about the needs and problems of people like yourself" and 80 percent said Bush shares their moral values. A similar poll ran the previous day in The Washington Post under the headline "Poll Shows Bush's Ratings Weathering Business Scandals." That's the straightforward way to report a poll.

Jack Shafer of Slate joined the Times-bashing bloggers, complaining about a July 1 story, "Bush Slashing Aid for EPA Cleanup at 33 Toxic Sites." That story misrepresented a partisan squabble over whether cleanups of "orphaned sites" (whose owners have gone bankrupt) should be financed by tax revenues or a revival of the Superfund tax, phased out in 1995. Shafer wrote that funding has remained steady in recent years and the Bushies want a modest increase for 2003, so the headline could have been, "Bush Superfund Budget Grows Slightly."

Keep an eye on bloggers. The main arena for media criticism is not going to be books, columns or panel discussions, and it certainly won't be journalism schools. It will be the Internet.

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This is why Ruzicka was in Iraq -- to gather fodder for anti-American propaganda. The do-gooder image is a cover.

164 posted on 04/17/2005 7:02:52 PM PDT by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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