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Pope May Color Debate in U.S. Over 'Life' Issues Like Abortion
NY Times ^ | April 21, 2005 | ROBIN TONER

Posted on 04/20/2005 8:13:14 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 04/20/2005 8:13:16 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Mario Cuomo better bone up on his oratory skills because, heaven knows, when he meets St Peter at the gate, he's gonna need them.


2 posted on 04/20/2005 8:16:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: neverdem
"I doubt if he understands it as well as he should, but then, whom does he speak with who might enlighten him, without giving a conservative spin to the explanation?"

God could perhaps be consulted through prayer.

3 posted on 04/20/2005 8:17:13 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: neverdem

MCbrien doesn't understand that the pope rejects his world view . Pope Benedict understand implicitly the views of someone like John Kerry. probably beters than Kerry himself does


4 posted on 04/20/2005 8:19:53 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: jwalsh07

St. Peter has met many a Jesuit,so Cuomo's casuistry will be lost on him.


5 posted on 04/20/2005 8:21:41 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: neverdem
If you are a Republican who is for the death penalty, that is O.K., but if you are a Democrat for choice, that is not O.K.

Right. What about it? You got a problem with that?

Is the Death Penalty Morally Equal to Abortions?

6 posted on 04/20/2005 8:22:26 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel
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To: neverdem
You say to the bishops, look, I respect you, I want to stay in the club, I try to live by your rules, but let's not be selective

Hear that, kids? You can sin all you want, and still stay in "the club" that is the Catholic Church.

These Blue-Zone Boomers still have no idea what's coming.
7 posted on 04/20/2005 8:23:33 PM PDT by horse_doc
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To: neverdem

Mario, like always, selectively quotes the Church. Catholic teaching says nothing about the war in Iraq. Pope John Paul II stood against it, but said nothing about how participating in the war was, for a Catholic, sinful activity. On the matter of the death penalty the Pope spoke more directly, but he called it wrong in almost all circumstances. Again he never said that a Catholic participating in a court prescribed execution was sinful. On the other hand abortion is most certainly identified as EVIL, and participation or facilitation of the taking of innocent life is always a sin of great gravity. It's just unfortunate that the mental media midgets who interview Cuomo don't know or don't care to know the great differences in the Church positions on these topics.


8 posted on 04/20/2005 8:24:16 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: neverdem

It's so like the NYT to put the word "life" in quotation marks in this headline.

Anyone who doesn't think the very definition of "life" is presently up for grabs should take a look at this headline.


9 posted on 04/20/2005 8:30:20 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: neverdem

The MSM has been seething about the outpouring of affection for JPII. Now that the Church has chosen someone of similar thinking, i.e. a conservative, to be Pope, they're pulling out all the long knives. They're venting because, like the last 2 Presidential elections, they've been unable to shape the outcome to their liking.


10 posted on 04/20/2005 8:30:41 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: xkaydet65

That's it. War and capital punishment are not always wrong. Abortion is always evil. it's those moral absolutes they have difficulty with.


11 posted on 04/20/2005 8:32:48 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: neverdem
WOE to that "priest" Fr. O'Brien.

Stupid Bill O'Reilly had on a FABULOUS Priest tonite, Fr. Gerald Murray (?) a Canon Law Priest and BOR almost was spitting when Fr. Murray was so anti abortion and hard lined about pro-abortion politicians and Americans in general. It was a thing to behold!!!

12 posted on 04/20/2005 8:34:01 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

I'll give up the death penalty for no more abortions, but the criminals have to have a LIFE sentence....only coming out in a box.....PERIOD. The libs would have to rejoinder to that.


13 posted on 04/20/2005 8:36:20 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Eagles6

The left either doesn't see, or doesn't want to see, that there's a difference between abortion and capitol punishment. To them, liberating 24 million people in Iraq from tyranny is bad, but starving a woman to death is A-OK! I gave up trying to figure out liberals years ago. They just are too illogical.


14 posted on 04/20/2005 8:38:14 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: RobbyS

True.


15 posted on 04/20/2005 8:41:36 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

Wonder when Kerry, Cuomo. Leahy and the Times Editorial staff will grant the Pope an audience and explain to him the error of his ways?


16 posted on 04/20/2005 8:43:05 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: neverdem

The pro-death community is too impatient.


17 posted on 04/20/2005 8:43:43 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Ann Archy
some American bishops have become more assertive in urging their congregations to vote in accord with Catholic teachings on those issues...

Meanwhile, other American bishops decided to play tennis or take a walk in the park in order to avoid a confrontation with dissident Catholics over the Church's teaching on these "Life" issues of dubious importance. /sarcasm>

18 posted on 04/20/2005 8:44:11 PM PDT by bourbon
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I wouldn't hold my breath. Benedict XVI has better things to do than waste his time with those losers.


19 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:03 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: neverdem

In 1960 there was no Roe v Wade decision, nor an imminent social security crisis due to falling numbers of populaces to support the "Great Society".


If the Catholic Church takes a different path, a more liberal path, you can expect an expansion of an "Ingrate Society" that will eventually devour itself, just what so many lefties and anarchists have been trying to facilitate for so long.



20 posted on 04/20/2005 8:47:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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