Posted on 04/20/2005 11:25:41 PM PDT by FairOpinion
Maybe he was carrying out his wifes last wishes this would also explain his actions, we don't know.
I would think that we should error on the side of life rather than death.
Can't argue with that, I totally agree.
Bookmarked.
A great piece...
Yikes.. it's even worse than I thought.
Thank you for the info, ClancyJ. I stand corrected.
I think you had what is called a wish-dream. You dreamt what we all wanted for Terri. The nightmare is the reality.
Translated: losers with no lives got obbsessed with something that was none of their business, it didn't go their way, and they don't know how to cope with reality.
No, quit blaming the leaders and get busy changing the Florida laws.
By dwelling on what you think the leaders should have done, you take away the power in your own hands and that is exactly where the solution is.
I do not blame the FL freepers at all - I was just commenting on how come we are not hearing of what they are doing. They should be so outraged and demanding correction.
And when we don't know - we need to err on the side of life because it cost Terri her life on the "chance" Michael was telling the truth.
Very costly for Terri. There was a 50/50 chance he was telling the truth. Doesn't sound like good odds for a death sentence.
I blame the leaders absolutely I do but you didn't read my post that thousands of people are doing stuff behind the scenes? maybe I'm one of them? You were saying where are the Fla freepers? At the Vigil we kept saying Where is Jeb? Who's the governor? not me.
Although I agree we should err on the side of life I don't think Terri is any worse off than she was when she was alive.
I'm sure she is in a better place now. God rest her soul.
Even advanced directives don't really make sense, as they are written when you are healthy trying to guess what you might want if/when you are not. Most people say "I would never WANT to live like that...." but once it happens, it is no longer about "wants."
Does anyone WANT to be in a wheelchair? But after they are injured, the next step is fighting hard for the best life they can. Does someone WANT to get cerebral palsy or multiple sclerosis? How about cancer? (The list is obviously very long.) But once something tragic happens, most people try very hard to get the most out of each day of the remainder of their lives.
How can you really know that you would no longer want to live when the unthinkable happens? And what happens when doctors and relatives decide that THEY would not want to live like that, so they will end YOUR life? When we start letting feelings and opinions play too big a part, too many Terri's will happen.
I am not known as a cheerleader for "progressive" trends in western culture but this is yet another nadir. I see it plainly as a post-birth abortion, again for reasons of convenience. The number of abortions and (mostly to-be) euthanasia murders in your and my countries will make 9/11 look like a stubbed toe. I part with many FReepers in believing that the worst threats to our Judeo-Christian ways of life lie within, not from the Middle East. Terrorists can also kill innocent people, a terrible thing, but they have no way of altering the fundamental values of our society in the way that Felos is intent on doing*. If anything, the Islamics galvanize values against their own interests, even in the absence of mass terrorism (The Netherlands and Islamic immigration come to mind). Felos and Co., however, operating in a more seductive (to some people) and insidious form, have the ability to make right wrong and wrong right in the consciences of many people.
Again, your quote:
I cannot imagine how the US will come to terms with this evil deed.
The U.S. will come to terms in one of two ways: By accepting it as the "right" thing to do, in Felos' contrived morality, to be integrated into a "right-to-die" "liberty" (we know Terri did not want to die but this is how the history books will be written), or by summarily rejecting it as a morally repugnant practice in the (especially Catholic) Christian tradition. I have very little hope the latter will occur, just as abortion has stayed "safe and legal" all these years with the protection of the courts.
I'm not sure what to do right now other than pray. In the early 90's I visited your neighbor New Zealand and was charmed at the traditional values I encountered. Unfortunately, I know they are now going down the same roads converging at the culture of death.
Maybe a better place awaits us?
* I would make an exception here for Israel, as Islamics terrorists could and probably will devastate Israel to the point of cultural annihilation at some time in the future, but this vulnerability is a matter of geography.
If you are for judicial tyranny and despots, good for you. Greer needs a couple more bootlickers down at the courthouse.
I agree that it's a great piece. And liberals are supposed to have cornered the market on feelings. That will be the day. I may retire using the term compassionate conservative as too many so called cc's voted against Terri or bowed to poison penned Greer.
Neither you nor I knew Terri Schaivo from Adam.
MURDERED by a judge with a poison pen.
This kind of rhetoric is exhibit A of why the Terri fanatics got nowhere. No one murdered anyone; she died 16 years ago from a heart attack. Medical technology can prolong the body, but it can't recreate the mind. Her cerebral cortex - the seat of consciousness - was liquified. (The source for that data is the guardian ad-litem report.) She was dead, the only person in a place to make patient-care decisions decided it was time to let her go, and it is no one's busisness but his. Not the government's, not Tom Delay's, not George W. Bush's, not Terri's parents, not yours, not mine. None of us has a right to second guess his decision. It's a private decision made in the most tragic of circumstances. Call it what you will, but it is most certainly not murder.
How can people be protected from medical power of attorney being snatched from caring relatives and placed in the hands of questionably motivated other relatives by gullible judges?
It looked like the judge in Mae's case ruled carelessly and then let the hospice people and the granddaughter take over without having to answer for any aspect of the judge's ruling not being followed. It looked like things were being done in the dark until the light was beamed upon what the "hospice" was doing in cahoots with the granddaughter.
murder
"I personally refuse to accept the notion that we have become a barbaric society living amongst many others like George Felos, Michael Schiavo, George Greer, and Deborah Bushnell." | Cheryl Ford, RN
Cheryl, accept it or not, the evidence that says we are is there. Also there is/was a large segment on this forum that supported her murder.
What you wittnessed was the solving of the social security, medicare aand medicade crisis.
yawn, bye FV
Lemme see. Hypothetically speaking. Say I am Jude24's spouse. Jude24 collapses one dark night under mysterious circumstances. (I later decide Jude24 was bulimic. Voila! Easy explanation. Unproven, but I am a very handsome/pretty and convincing person. The judge likes me and always rules in my favor.) Jude24 falls from having a heart attack that was later ruled not a heart attack. Jude24 breaks many bones from this mysterious fall caused by a non-heart attack. I squire Jude24 around in a wheelchair and groom him/her up until I win a BIG lawsuit for Jude24's rehab. Then, BAM! Jude24 never has a dime of the rehab money spent on Jude24's rehab. Instead, I find a new honey and hire a lawyer to off Jude24. I lock Jude24 away with no more trips to the lake or sun shine. I stalk the new honey and scare her and have to find a new honey. I have two kids with the new honey over the next ten years, all the while paying the lawyer to fight Jude24's parents who want to take care of Jude24 out of Jude24's rehab money. Jude24 belongs to me. I have suddenly recalled after 7 yrs. that Jude24 wouldn't want to live like that. Finally, I get my way. That has been real important to me apparently all along. Too important. Still a lot of legitimate unanswered questions. Not so simple.
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