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Illegal Immigrants: The Last Nail in the Coffin for Social Security
Conservative News.US ^ | 4-19-2005 | E.F. Winlsow

Posted on 04/21/2005 7:12:36 AM PDT by francke

Illegal Immigrants: The Last Nail in the Coffin for Social Security By E.F. Winslow April 19, 2005

To privatize or not privatize? That is the question. Well, actually no. Because if the Totalization Treaty currently being negotiated with Mexico to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits goes through, Social Security will be irreparably decimated.

The idea behind Totalization Treaties is to help employees sent abroad to still have enough credits to draw Social Security benefits with the contributions paid in total in the countries in which the employee worked. Currently, there are about 20 such agreements that the United States recognizes, and those are with European countries. These particular agreements have no negative affect on our economy because it is only a small amount of workers affected, and since it is a reciprocal agreement, it is generally a wash.

However, with Mexico, it is a completely one-sided equation. There are between 11 million and 15 million illegal immigrants in this country right now, and that number is swelling by as many as 1.5 million more each year. If some type of amnesty program is put in place, and those millions of illegal aliens are given Social Security numbers, they could qualify to draw off of social security after paying in for as little as only 18 months. (It takes 40 years in Mexico to qualify for their government retirement plan). Some estimate the cost over the next few decades would be $345 billion.

Consider, also, what this might mean in disability payments. An individual could illegally enter this country, work for two years, then claim a disability. If the claim was approved, they could go back to Mexico, and you and I would be paying full disability to that Mexican citizen for the rest of his or her days, and they would literally be living like royalty. (If your faith in the goodness of human nature precludes you from thinking that this scenario wouldn’t happen hundreds of times a day, remember that the individuals we are talking about are here ILLEGALLY to begin with…breaking our laws and abusing our system is what they do best).

Something this serious deserves a letter or call to your congressman and/or senator. Let them know you oppose not only any amnesty for illegal aliens, but oppose any Totalization Treaty with Mexico. If such a plan is approved, all the arguments about the best way to fix social security will be moot.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; socialsecurity; totalizationtreaty

1 posted on 04/21/2005 7:12:37 AM PDT by francke
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To: francke
...they could qualify to draw off of social security after paying in for as little as only 18 months.

Heck, it takes 10 years for a US Citizen to qualify.

2 posted on 04/21/2005 7:19:03 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: francke
yea, well I hope someone wakes up Jorge Bush, 'cause the el Presidente doesn't appear to have a clue!

Forget SS, in CA alone, it's costing taxpayers NINE BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR to allow illegals to stay here...and that's NET after you deduct what they contribute. And at those prices we could round up every illegal in America, put them up in the Four Seasons for the night and FLY them home tomorrow and still be ahead of the game at the end of the year!
3 posted on 04/21/2005 7:23:11 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: francke
"The Last Nail in the Coffin for Social Security" ... is Congress.

We are electing stupid people to run government. Self aggrandizing, in it for the ego, take the dough and run again and again, never get a real job, parasitic, lying in our faces fools.

Instead of wasting time writing them, boot them out of office.

My dead father would make a better Congressman or senator that what we are surrounded with, and he was a life long Democrat. (Hmmm ... I wonder if he is still voting?) Hell, you can't tell the patriots from the traitors, the line is so thin.

4 posted on 04/21/2005 7:28:07 AM PDT by G.Mason (Though I post to amuse myself ... I am not always successful)
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To: kellynla

40 quarters to qualify for SS retirement or disability benefits. However, I think the focus is on getting people to go home. Currently, I have a neighbor who would like to be living in Mexico, but found out that his Social Security benefits were cut in half, so he moved back to the US. Also, bith US and Canada have rules liomiting living abroad and eligibility for Medicare benefits.


5 posted on 04/21/2005 7:30:46 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: G.Mason

We are electing people who voluntarily have turned all the tough decisions over to the courts, because it's far easier to run for office as Santa Claus, slathering taxpayer money everywhere to buy votes.


6 posted on 04/21/2005 7:31:52 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: HiJinx

ping


7 posted on 04/21/2005 7:36:10 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Richard Kimball
"We are electing people who voluntarily have turned all the tough decisions over to the courts, because it's far easier to run for office as Santa Claus, slathering taxpayer money everywhere to buy votes."

Brother ... You just said a mouthful!

8 posted on 04/21/2005 7:40:08 AM PDT by G.Mason (Though I post to amuse myself ... I am not always successful)
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To: francke

Of course it will and again Americans will be forfeiting their security up for a bunch of third worlders/

Mexico is our parasite. They are not an equal.


9 posted on 04/21/2005 7:42:49 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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