Posted on 04/21/2005 10:42:55 AM PDT by kingattax
Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), a leading advocate of the nuclear option to end the Democrats filibuster of judicial nominees, is privately arguing for a delay in the face of adverse internal party polls.
Details of the polling numbers remain under wraps, but Santorum and other Senate sources concede that, while a majority of Americans oppose the filibuster, the figures show that most also accept the Democratic message that Republicans are trying to destroy the tradition of debate in the Senate.
The Republicans are keeping the nuclear poll numbers secret, whereas they have often in the past been keen to release internal survey results that favor the party. David Winston, head of the Winston Group, which conducts Senate GOP polls, did return phone calls seeking comment.
Confirming public disquiet over the nuclear or constitutional option, Santorum said, Our polling shows that. But, he added, public thinking had been muddied by what he called false Democratic arguments that checks and balances were being eroded.
People see checks and balances as Democrats checking Republicans, not the legislative checking the executive or the judiciary checking the legislative, Santorum said. Filibustering presidential nominees was not something the Founding Fathers envisioned as a tool for balancing power between the branches, he argued. In other words, Democrats have managed to convince the public of their right to check Republicans in the Senate.
Santorums raising of reasons that Republicans should delay the constitutional option may surprise conservative activists who count him as one of the most passionate advocates for the tactic in the Senate.
There is no doubt that Santorum was the backbone of this from the very beginning, and he continues to be, said Manuel Miranda, head of the National Coalition to End Judicial Filibusters, an alliance of more than 200 conservative groups working on the judges issue.
Many Republicans and conservative activists had thought the Senate GOP leadership would trigger the tactic next week to end the judicial filibuster. The nominees considered most appropriate for such a historic procedural maneuver, Priscilla Owen and Janice Rogers Brown, are expected to be discharged from the Judiciary Committee later this week.
Conservative activists said they received word last week to ramp up their communication efforts on the constitutional option with the goal of having their activity peak next week, before the May recess. Also last week, a New York Times report citing senior Senate lawmakers bolstered the expectation that the showdown would happen next week.
Santorum said he has left the timing to Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.).
Ive been suggesting one way or the other we need to make a decision. I havent said [a] longer or shorter timeframe should be followed, he said.
But GOP aides said Santorum has made known to the leadership reasons for why Republicans should not move forward on the nuclear or constitutional option.
He was concerned that too many things are competing in the same area and you couldnt get a clean shot at it, a GOP aide said. The aide cited the fallout from congressional Republicans intervening in a Florida courts decision to remove Terri Schiavos feeding tube and the subsequent controversy caused by House Majority Leader Tom DeLays (R-Texas) statement that the time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior.
Democrats portrayed that statement as an incitement against judges, and it resulted in a spate of media critiques of DeLay and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), who made a speech on the Senate floor raising the question of why judges are targets of violence.
Senate and House Democrats have woven the Republican intervention in the Schiavo issue, DeLays statement about judges who declined to save her life, and GOP consideration of the nuclear option into a broad message that Republicans are abusing power. John Boltons stalled nomination to become U.N. ambassador has also become a distraction.
Theres not a clean slate and backdrop for the nuclear option, a GOP aide said, summarizing Santorums observations. But while Santorum is saying too many things are competing in the same realm, others are saying they highlight the issue of judges by demonstrating how the makeup of the judiciary affects national debates, for example.
Another GOP aide said Santorum is less concerned with the fallout from the Schiavo case than with addressing several more items on the legislative agenda before Democrats tie the Senate in knots, as they have threatened to retaliate against a rule change.
Theres important business our guys have to get out of the way, the aide said, adding, Our guys want to give every chance for some negotiated compromise to be explored to avoid gridlock.
Santorum said, We have a lot of work to get done.
But the aide denied that the messaging environment is giving Republicans second thoughts about the nuclear or constitutional option. Republicans would craft their message to their actions, not their actions to a poll-tested message, the aide added.
But GOP polling shows that Americans have swallowed the Democrats and liberal groups message on the constitutional option, the sources say.
If anything is bad, it is that the American public has bought the misinformation campaign that were trying to take away the filibuster, the aide said. The campaign has caused misinformation, and thats where we have a messaging challenge.
Thinks makes NO sense..pure BS..and maybe it's disinformation..by the Dems....Hello!!..there's gonna be an opening on the SC court, and a CJ slot at that..you can't have the issue of a nominee's right to an up-or-down vote get tangled up in the hystrionics of a SC nomination..
This very same majority also have know idea what advise & consent means. However, I suspect they could all tell you who got kicked off the island on last weeks Survivor
I'm disgusted. These guys have NO balls. Just DO IT. Get our judges in and explain it later. There is plenty of time before the next election. Ugh.
Another gutless Republican.
Polls opinion is only good for a day or two. It is no reason not to do the right thing.
No, the article is a pack of lies. Santorum knows that he has signed his political death warrant if he doesn't get the appellate judges through.
No, the article is a pack of lies. Santorum knows that he has signed his political death warrant if he doesn't get the appellate judges through.
I remember a post about moveon (last weekend I think) asking people to send out 10,000 letters to try to put a stop to the judges being approved.
Anyone think that could have anything to do with the Republicans not going ahead with the nuclear option yet?
Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), a leading advocate of the nuclear option to end the Democrats filibuster of judicial nominees, is privately arguing for a delay in the face of adverse internal party polls.
Well, G**-D*** IT!!!-- start refuting them!!!! This group of Republicans is about the most feckless, worthless, and cowardly bunch ever. It tempts one to abandon politics as a means of getting anything done.
Correct. And the Republicans are losing the battle because of the Dems are out-maneuvering them on PR. Instead of wringing their hands, the Republicans should be hammering...and I mean REALLY HAMMERING!!!...the Democrats over their obstruction. The Reps' ineffectiveness is literally making me sick to my stomach. We have 55 members, for God's sake!...It's time they started acting like a majority, and starting cracking the whip to enforce party solidarity. If they spend the next year and a half dicking around and not overcoming the Dems obstruction, I'm inclined to sit out the next election. Most of us have worked our butts off, and sent money we probably couldn't afford to send, to GOP Senate candidates, and this is the pack of gutless wonders we've gotten for our efforts???!!!! Maybe we need to let the Republicans slip back into the minority, purge the party of the weenies, and build a new majority. This would take another 10-or-20 years, but right now, the Republicans in the Senate are next to worthless.
I've been playing around with Google Maps satellite images, and this is a true fact. The White House only has its roof structures blocked off, but Capitol Hill, including House and Senate office buildings, are fuzzed-out. More evidence of cowardice?
How can the Republicans in the Senate and the White House be so tone deaf ?
Do they not realize that a beehive in the base has been ruptured ?
Failing to appreciate the illegal immigration crisis and allowing the Democrats to run the Senate and control the agenda is reaching a critical mass.
Instead of taking off the gloves and coming out swinging and defending their policies and nominees-it appears that they have all gone into a collective fetal position .
I can't believe this is the same bunch that stood tall against terror and then caves to the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
This is a golden opportunity for anyone with 08 aspirations to set themselves apart from the typical timid ,Republican hand wringers in the Senate.
Don't flame me, I'm trying to figure this out. Seems odd, but maybe I am missing something important.
The dems have so far blocked 10 out of 200 judicial nominees. In the first 4 years of Clinton, how many nominees did the Republicans block? I know that over the entire 8 years it was around 50.
If the dems ever control the senate and hold the presidency (say, Hillary with first lady Billy, and Kerry holding DeLay's spot...ya, not pretty), wouldn't it be good to be able to block foaming at the mouth liberal pansy nominees?
If you gotta, at least use the end without the buckle.
Dumbasses.
well said.....and right on target
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