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Dems try to kill Clinton probe
NY Daily News ^ | JAMES GORDON MEEK

Posted on 04/21/2005 11:14:33 AM PDT by Republican Red

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To: jclay132
"So, how come?"

Charles Krauthammer's Presidential Corruption Index.

242 posted on 04/22/2005 8:14:35 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: oso blanco
claiming the oil was coming out of Hungary

Soros (pun) has a ring to it.

What's your opinion on (my belief) Rich being involved in the Oil for Food UN scandal?

Thanks for some very interesting background!

243 posted on 04/22/2005 9:04:25 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: kcvl

Exactly. The report is finished. Why should it make a difference weather is futher funded or not?


245 posted on 04/22/2005 1:17:21 PM PDT by tjg
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To: oso blanco
Sorry for the delayed response.....work.

So did Rich continue having dealings with smuggled Iraqi oil after Clinton cleaned his slate and Rich cleared his desk? If so, he's vulnerable to prosecution again. Not to ignore the Clinton foot prints in this trail.

Interestingly, the low oil prices had a precedent; recall the grateful Kuwaitis pumping oil at $10/bbl after the first Gulf War, causing all sorts of problems in domestic oil production. While the Kuwaiti Emirs did this to show gratitude to the US (Right!), they restored their wealth and cornered the market. The GHWB administration had to deal with this to bring oil back to normal market prices.

(GW) Bush had plans for war with Iraq upon entering office

No doubt but those plans would have been in the DoD, rehashed, updated and revised throughout the Clinton admin. 9/11 pulled the trigger. Although Iraq wasn't apparently in our sights, it was one of the ducks in a row, along with the UN, the European kingpins.....and hopefully, the Clintons.

"What a fine mess you've gotten us into this time, HillBilly!

246 posted on 04/22/2005 7:48:56 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: oso blanco
I'll start with a question. Where does US, Canadian and Mexican oil production stand in OPEC?

I've been corrected before on the grade of Venezuelan oil (perhaps from you) and its cost to bring to market.

We deal with foreign markets for oil largely due to their dearth of environmental/labor regulations as well as technological inability to extract crude on their own. Oil extraction tech is mainly US/UK/Dutch and others. Despots reap profits from this system. But they are the sovereign leaders responsible for the welfare of their countries. Their attitudes and actions internally are not the point of my reply.

I believe that the creation of petroleum did not stop with the extinction of dinosaurs. That there is evidence our domestic wells are refilling but not profitable to reopen when the cost of imports are reasonably low. That we know of and can access large untapped reserves domestically. That we have the technological ability to create energy from other sources.

Oil is a commodity preyed upon by corrupt pols and despots for their personal lifetime benefit. Clinton knew this, knew how to wheel and deal for filthy lucre. He and his ilk controlled State, Justice and Commerce for 8 yrs and we are paying the price in the market. Up and down , across the board.

Just a rant. But as Dick Cheney said, "I feel better for it."

248 posted on 04/22/2005 10:16:59 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Republican Red

Business as usual in DC. Bush will probably support killing the report. No need to undermine the taxpayers willingness to be bled further ... by promoting any unnecessary 'illwill'. Besides, Clinton is the Bush's buddy now.


249 posted on 04/22/2005 10:32:03 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: oso blanco
Back atcha!

Alternatives are being researched but the bottom line is a disaster. While a fleet owner of LNG vehicles may profit initially, the first accident with a ruptured LNG tank would put a big dent in the whole enterprise.

Electric cars for urban/suburban commuting sounds good but is also a joke. Some one has to pay the electric bill. Imagine the home electric bill after a month of recharging the battery. Think of the down time waiting for sufficient charge. Electricity demands go down after the peak usage times. What happens if 10pm to 5am becomes a "peak usage" time?

But back to the Clinton/Rich/UN oil racket. Cisneros is just a petty corrupt appointment; the dems want the investigation unfunded by attaching a rider to a spending bill. Hillary's campaign fund raising is being investigated, hopefully seriously. Sandy Berger is a thief. Kofi Annan is skating on thin ice. Marc Rich is at large and George Soros is Hollywood.

The press calls these things scandals, all I see is obstruction to finding the true history of the past couple of decades. Let me put it this way, European kingpins, Mid East despots and the PRC found the key to infiltrate the US. Clinton.

I know that if all these characters were jailed tomorrow, I'll still be paying $2.57 a gallon at the pump but the percentage of the price that no longer goes to their racket and is returned to improving the business infrastructure would be worth it. Just another rant.

Good to hear you drive a diesel truck; I'll take torque over speed any day.

251 posted on 04/23/2005 11:36:02 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Well considering that article was written in 2001, and other than the campaign finance reform, most of Krauthammer's predictions didn't come to fruition. And CK admits that both parties were taking advantage of the soft money loopholes.

Not very compelling.


253 posted on 07/06/2005 1:53:23 PM PDT by jclay132 (Just looking for answers)
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