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Alien asteroid belt detected around Sun-like star
New Scientist ^ | April 21st, 2005 | Hazel Muir

Posted on 04/21/2005 11:23:53 AM PDT by missyme

An alien asteroid belt may have been spotted circling a mature star nearby. The observations, made by NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope, reveal a dense ring of dust around the star that might arise from rocks colliding and smashing each other apart.

Alternatively, the dust could come from a “supercomet” almost the size of Pluto, said Charles Beichman of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, US, at a NASA news conference on Wednesday.

Beichman and his colleagues used Spitzer to observe more than 80 Sun-like stars, including one called HD69830, which lies 41 light years away. Its infrared spectrum suggested it has a thick disc of warm dust grains surrounding it. The dust could be produced in a busy asteroid belt if large rocks are colliding every 1000 years or so, replenishing the ring.

“These grains are probably the signpost of an asteroid belt around 25 times more massive than that orbiting our own sun,” says Beichman. The dust seems to lie inside an orbit equivalent to that of Venus, much closer to its star than our own asteroid belt, which lies between Mars and Jupiter.

Earlier observations had revealed asteroid belts around young, massive stars. But HD69830 is a mature star, about half the age of the Sun and with 20% less mass. If confirmed, the new asteroid belt would be the first detected around a star similar to the Sun.

Rubble shepherds “We’re really interested in understanding more about the asteroid belts of mature stars, because they tell us more about our own sun and whether our own planetary system is the norm or exceptional,” says Beichman.

Astronomers say the amount of rubble is surprising because debris around stars tends to disperse over time. They suspect a giant planet might be trapping the rubble in orbit, just as Jupiter’s gravity shepherds rocks in our own asteroid belt into a series of bands.

However, so far there have been no direct sightings of any planets around HD69830. And if any existed in the warmer inner regions of the system, they would probably be hostile to life. They would be pelted with rubble and suffer mass extinctions of any life every million years or so, Beichman expects.

A second possibility is that the dust around HD69830 comes from a giant comet slowly boiling away near the star. But to generate so much dust, the comet would have to be at least 25 times bigger than comet Hale-Bopp, which blazed spectacularly through the skies in 1997. And the required close-in orbit would mean the comet would boil away relatively quickly, making this scenario rather far-fetched.

Beichman hopes future observations of the star by Spitzer and other telescopes will discover the true source of the dust by pinning down its detailed chemical make-up.


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1 posted on 04/21/2005 11:23:54 AM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
An alien asteroid belt may have been spotted circling a mature star nearby.

As opposed to a native asteroid belt?

2 posted on 04/21/2005 11:25:16 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: PatrickHenry
Perhaps of interest.
3 posted on 04/21/2005 11:34:43 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: missyme

I have more confidence that our solar system is THE NORM than in speculation that we are somehow different


4 posted on 04/21/2005 11:35:45 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Mr. K
I have more confidence that our solar system is THE NORM than in speculation that we are somehow different

I think the next 20 years of Astronomy are going to show us some WONDERFUL things!

5 posted on 04/21/2005 11:36:55 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: missyme
One day we can send refinery ships to mine the ore....



6 posted on 04/21/2005 11:38:49 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; sionnsar; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; ...
Can NASA have the Spitzer telescope look at the Alpha Centauri Star System??


7 posted on 04/21/2005 11:43:53 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: missyme

"Alien Asteroid Belt"

Sounds like a good name for a band!


8 posted on 04/21/2005 11:46:52 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: KevinDavis

I think just about every telescope capable of viewing it, has.

You're not going to find stable orbits in a trinary system.


9 posted on 04/21/2005 11:46:54 AM PDT by Crazieman (UESR: Union of European Socialist Republics)
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To: missyme
hmm, well that's exciting...still doesn't help get the cost of my natural gas down, nor drop the price of a gallon of fuel, but hey...it's just tax money spent on this stuff..[/sarc.
10 posted on 04/21/2005 11:47:40 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Joe Brower; RadioAstronomer; VadeRetro; longshadow
Perhaps of interest.

Asteroid belts are pretty much all alike. Seen one, seen 'em all.

11 posted on 04/21/2005 11:58:13 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Frank_Discussion

Or maybe some kind of medical device . . . ?


12 posted on 04/21/2005 12:19:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: missyme

But is it an illegal alien? If so, when will it cross our borders?


13 posted on 04/21/2005 12:21:19 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mtbopfuyn

The dinosuars on that star's planets are gonna get it good.


14 posted on 04/21/2005 12:47:25 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: missyme
"...in space, no one can hear you scream..."
15 posted on 04/21/2005 12:48:39 PM PDT by NoClones
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm not going to make any jokes linking asteroids with Preparation-H. Not gonna do it. Wouldn't be prudent.
16 posted on 04/21/2005 3:02:58 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Semper Paratus

My thoughts exactly, I mean, we aren't missing one are we?


17 posted on 04/21/2005 6:25:45 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (My US Army daughter out shot everybody in her basic training company.)
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