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Disabled fear Schiavo death may hasten euthanasia
Florida Baptist Witness ^ | April 21, 2005 | TOM STRODE

Posted on 04/22/2005 10:18:32 AM PDT by amdgmary

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1 posted on 04/22/2005 10:18:36 AM PDT by amdgmary
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To: phenn; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; tutstar; russesjunjee; EternalVigilance; dandelion; ...

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2 posted on 04/22/2005 10:20:54 AM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: amdgmary
Disabled fear Schiavo death may hasten euthanasia

Duh! You THINK?!?

3 posted on 04/22/2005 10:22:13 AM PDT by Houmatt (Another dead child in Florida! When are we gonna stand up and say, "Enough!")
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To: amdgmary

One can't blame them. When there are pro-euthanasia rumblings even from "conservatives" these days, the time is not very far off.


4 posted on 04/22/2005 10:22:15 AM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: kjenerette

...for your legislative agenda.


5 posted on 04/22/2005 10:24:15 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...if we can keep it!)
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To: amdgmary
God bless Joni Eareckson Tada and her efforts. She has been leading the anti-euthanasia fight for years and is always on point. As we continue the slide down the slippery slope, it is inevitable that euthanasia becomes acceptable--to the ungodly, not to us. That crowd (the pro-death crowd) must be fought at every opportunity, relentlessly.
6 posted on 04/22/2005 10:26:02 AM PDT by brushcop
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To: amdgmary
Disabled fear Schiavo death may hasten euthanasia.

No kidding. That was the whole point.

Remember, if you are physically challenged, the democrat party and the judicial tyrants want you dead. Come to think about it, the battle over judges in Washington directly effects your life (literally).

If you are "disabled" and you want to live, VOTE REPUBLICAN!!

7 posted on 04/22/2005 10:30:17 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: amdgmary

Stupid article. Anyone...disabled or not, should simply fill out a form designating their wishes to be artificially kept alive or to be left alone after such and such a procedure. This can be placed in the care of someone
in the family, a lawyer if you have one, or the nursing
home/hospital where you are receiving care.

This is all just HOOPLA to instill fear in the elderly
or those not capable of putting together a logical
train of thought. Further, anyone, regardless of age,
who has NOT completed such a form is taking a great risk.
I won't add "an idiot" since I know many people are already
getting over the hype instigated in the Schiavo case.

Put it this way: If you have accumulated valuables along
life's journey and you haven't made a statement about what you want done with them upon your demise, then you probably don't give a hoot about what they do with your body once it is no longer useful to you!


8 posted on 04/22/2005 10:32:02 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: amdgmary

Ya know,
10 years ago, I was a huge fan of hospice. It was wonderful when many family members became terminally ill.

But one day, in my facility, I heard nurses grumbling about how our hospice wing was 'killing' people. These were good, caring, veteran RN's and I was stopped in my tracks! I learned then that often an elderly resident was put on hospice without a terminal dx. just a 'failure to thrive' dx or 'declining' in the chart.

Often, these folks were relatively alert, oriented...just becoming more difficult to care for--- feeding/eating often being a major 'problem'.

Then on day, the Dr. would prescribe Roxanol for 'pain' and they were out the door in days. Our joke became "If you are lying in a hospital, and hear they are putting you on Roxanol, LEAVE!"

That was years ago. Terri brought a lot of memories back.

Anyhow, I just started consulting in another LTCF, and just this week, I was reviewing a chart and yep...
She is "declining", she is old, fragile and not eating well, but no terminal dx. And I'll be darned...she started on Roxanol that morning because she 'ached'. When I go back next week, I don't expect to see her.

I actually get physically ill on the "old people are evil" or "Gimmee geezers" threads because that mindset makes the above perfectly OK. These are our future caregivers. No amount of LTC insurance will make them care or see your life as having value....cuz it doesn't have value now.


9 posted on 04/22/2005 10:33:14 AM PDT by najida (I wish I had Tina Turner's legs, Ann Coulter's brains and Paris Hilton's credit cards.)
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To: amdgmary
They have EVERYTHING to fear because of this case, especially if they have any assets of any value that their loving relatives would want.

"Yes, your honor, Granny told us if she ever was in Persistent Vegetative State, that we were to pull the feedin' tube! BTW, can we get the will read early? I've got reservations for a trip around the world."............

10 posted on 04/22/2005 10:35:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Entrepreneurs find a need and fill it. Politicians create a need and fill it........)
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To: amdgmary

The Culture of Death is winning many key battles these days. They are making steady progress on the euthanasia front. Killing those in a PVS, the old, and those who are not "living". Now we are on to killing those who simply don't want to live anymore. So much for "Never Again". If Hitler had only known. We have killed more of our own children than he could have dreamed of killing. May God forgive us.


12 posted on 04/22/2005 10:36:18 AM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: Grendel9

Unfortunately the law can change and unless you keep up and change your living will, you might be in for a surprise. For instance, when Terri supposedly told Michael she wouldn't want artificial life support, feeding tubes and hydration were not considered life support. The law changed in 1990 or 91 (I think). So, had she actually had a living will saying she didn't want life support, she may not have realized that with a change in law she was now saying she didn't want hydration or food.
Living Wills may actually give you a very false sense of security, since we cannot write one to cover all contengencies.
susie


13 posted on 04/22/2005 10:37:30 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: amdgmary

What a tremendous post.

Thank you.


14 posted on 04/22/2005 10:38:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Quality of life': Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism.)
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To: kennedy6979
The disabled lobby was silent for years as it allied with every special interest group (dems) in order to push through its agenda. Now, their silence has come back to haunt them. The dems are desrting them and the issue with them now is euthanasia. This is certainly a predictable outcome. All of a sudden they bring up "conservative" issues.

Although it seems the silence from AARP is deafening right now, it wouldn't surprise me if they jump on the bandwagon and become more conservative because of this issue.
15 posted on 04/22/2005 10:41:03 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage Listener - Any Questions?)
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To: amdgmary

I don't imagine we'll start gassing invalids like unwanted puppies until The Evil plants her ample posterior in the Oval office chair.

Yet, we are seeing the total destruction of the Constitution, not just the rights of certain citizens.


16 posted on 04/22/2005 10:41:14 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Impeach them all!)
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To: brytlea

In many nursing homes now, they have a detailed sheet in the front of what you want, and what you don't want as far as heroic measures, hydration, IV's, vents, tubes etc.

Also,
you'd be AMAZED at the number of eldery who want full codes! Which is their right. We assume they would all want DNR's, but that isn't the case.

And I've seen DNR's reversed after a trip to the hospital and overhearing the staff say things like "Goodie! A DNR! We don't have to do a thing!".

The elderly ain't fools, they know there are those who see them valueless.


17 posted on 04/22/2005 10:41:42 AM PDT by najida (I wish I had Tina Turner's legs, Ann Coulter's brains and Paris Hilton's credit cards.)
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To: Grendel9
Stupid article. Anyone...disabled or not, should simply fill out a form designating their wishes to be artificially kept alive

Yeah, that really helped Mae what's-her-name from Georgia. BTW I don't consider food and water to be artificial. Did you eat today? drink? Why?

18 posted on 04/22/2005 10:42:04 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: amdgmary
They have every right to be afraid!!

My 93 year old grandmother lives with my parents.

Just think how easy it would be to... she forgets things a lot... people have to clean up after her... she costs us money and time...

If we only had a "doctor" who could LEGALLY give us something to put in grandmas's orange juice. Then we could all get on with our lives.

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This is not something that could happen in the future. It is happening in our country now.

It is WE who have fallen.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

19 posted on 04/22/2005 10:42:24 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Grendel9

Fill out the form or we'll kill you?

Well, they've already admitted they ignore the Don't Kill Me docs.


20 posted on 04/22/2005 10:43:21 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Impeach them all!)
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