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To: Ahban

By the way, single-liners aside, do you think it's a good policy when officers at the Air Force Academy favor cadets who belong to their particular church and see to their advancement? Do you think that Catholics should have to listen to an officer in their class tell them that the Pope is probably an agent of the anti-Christ--and what conclusion should they draw if their officer nods in agreement when one of their fellow classmates tries to share the good news with them about the wickedness of the Marian cult?

Does this sound like any way to build a military for the United States? Or is only ok because you feel like you'd never personally be mistreated by the government for your Catholic or Jewish or Episcopalian faith?


44 posted on 04/24/2005 10:16:55 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
By the way, single-liners aside, do you think it's a good policy when officers at the Air Force Academy favor cadets who belong to their particular church and see to their advancement?

I'd bet that such action is already prohibited by military law, just as if one were to show any other kind of favoritism. And there's always that "conduct unbecoming of an officer" catch-all to snare the higher-ups.

47 posted on 04/24/2005 2:53:13 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: HostileTerritory
By the way, single-liners aside, do you think it's a good policy when officers at the Air Force Academy favor cadets who belong to their particular church and see to their advancement? Do you think that Catholics should have to listen to an officer in their class tell them that the Pope is probably an agent of the anti-Christ--and what conclusion should they draw if their officer nods in agreement when one of their fellow classmates tries to share the good news with them about the wickedness of the Marian cult?

I think you overstate your case. In my years of teaching at the Academy, I never found officer instructors transgressing in the ways you allege. This is not to say that I know that it has never occured--I have not sat in every class since the founding of the Academy--but I can say with confidence that it would be very rare. Perhaps you have some firsthand knowledge. Overall, classroom teaching is at a high professional level dealing with professional subjects. Religous involvment of officers with cadets occurs in venues designed for that, such as the chapel program, off-base church attendance, private homes, etc.

52 posted on 04/24/2005 3:30:15 PM PDT by Orca
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To: HostileTerritory

Your school of hypothetical red herrings have nothing to do with what is stated in the article. Maybe you can point out to me where in the article somethign like this occured? Just because pone unknown kid CLAIMS he was called a derogatory name by one unkown person for unstated reasons is no reason to bring in the federal courts and claim there is a "systemic problem". Aggressive secularists, working through the courts, are the real systemic problem.


The Christians on that campus have just as much right to speak their beliefs as the athiests on that campus do. This is an effort to shut them up. If some cadets don't like being told they will go to hell if they don't repent then they do not have the pschological strength required for the job, IMO.

What the cadets say and learn about in their own chapel services is their business, and it should not have to be approved by atheists. We are utterly disgusted with nonbelievers playing victim to shut us up.


53 posted on 04/24/2005 4:46:49 PM PDT by Ahban
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