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Crime rate down, but prison population on the rise
HoustonChronicle.com ^ | April 25, 2005, | SIOBHAN McDONOUGH

Posted on 04/25/2005 6:53:27 PM PDT by tbird5

WASHINGTON — While the U.S. crime rate has fallen over the past decade, the number of people in prison and jail is outpacing the number of inmates released, the government reports.

The population of the nation's prisons and jails has grown by about 900 inmates each week between mid-2003 and mid-2004, according to figures released by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. By last June 30 the system held 2.1 million people, or one in every 138 U.S. residents.

Texas, the state with the most people behind bars, reported that its prison population climbed from 167,532 inmates in 2003 to 169,110 inmates in 2004, an increase of 0.9 percent.

Paige Harrison, the report's co-author, said the U.S. increase can be attributed largely to get-tough policies enacted in the 1980s and 1990s. Among them are mandatory drug sentences, "three-strikes-and-you're-out" laws for repeat offenders and "truth-in-sentencing" laws that restrict early releases.

"As a whole most of these policies remain in place," she said. "These policies were a reaction to the rise in crime in the '80s and early '90s."

Malcolm Young, executive director of the Sentencing Project, which promotes alternatives to prison, said, "We're working under the burden of laws and practices that have developed over 30 years that have focused on punishment and prison as our primary response to crime."

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: criminals; prisons

1 posted on 04/25/2005 6:53:32 PM PDT by tbird5
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To: tbird5

Duh...JFK


2 posted on 04/25/2005 6:54:40 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: tbird5
Crime rate down, but prison population on the rise

"Headless Body Found In Topless Bar"

3 posted on 04/25/2005 6:55:20 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: tbird5

Maybe the crime rate is down because more criminals are in jail. I love the way that they use indications that the longer sentences are working as an argument to do away with them.


4 posted on 04/25/2005 6:56:20 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: BADROTOFINGER

no kidding. next we'll learn there are very low recidivism rates when we execute murderers.


5 posted on 04/25/2005 6:56:24 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: tbird5

Maybe the crime rate is down because more of the people that are committing crimes are now in prison where they belong :)


6 posted on 04/25/2005 6:56:52 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: tbird5

It's working, then.


7 posted on 04/25/2005 6:57:19 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: tbird5
"Crime rate down, but because prison population on the rise."
8 posted on 04/25/2005 6:59:12 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: tbird5
Sun's up longer, temperatures on the rise.

What gives?

9 posted on 04/25/2005 6:59:59 PM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: Rakkasan1

What about recidivism on FR? This is at least the fourth posting of this article.

Fortunately, JimRobb isn't going to killfile any Freepers.


10 posted on 04/25/2005 7:00:04 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user
Fortunately, JimRobb isn't going to killfile any Freepers don't push him. the day ain't over.
11 posted on 04/25/2005 7:01:02 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: proxy_user
Fortunately, JimRobb isn't going to killfile any Freepers don't push him. the day ain't over.
12 posted on 04/25/2005 7:01:21 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: tbird5
Crime rate down, but prison population on the rise Well Daaaaaaaaah! Do the freakin' math knucklehead! Thing is, one moron actually wrote the story and another moron printed it.
13 posted on 04/25/2005 7:02:05 PM PDT by baystaterebel (F/8 and be there!)
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To: Rakkasan1
Someone wrote an editorial using exactly this situation as an example of how mind-numbingly stupid leftist media eletes are.

The side of the elite is that since the crime rate is down, we can change sentencing laws. Additionally, the question that is asked is, "Why continue with these punative sentencing guidelines?"

The side of the average American is that when criminals are locked up, crime goes down. Additionally, the question asked by the average American is "What the hell is so difficult to figure out about this?"

I wish I could remember who wrote that OP-ED...JFK

14 posted on 04/25/2005 7:02:09 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: tbird5
In 2004, one in every 138 U.S. residents was in prison or jail; the previous year it was one in every 140.

The number of prisoners is going up, but the fraction of the US population in prison is going down. Two guesses as which of these correlates best with the crime rate.

15 posted on 04/25/2005 7:04:54 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: baystaterebel
"Crime rate down, but prison population on the rise Well Daaaaaaaaah! Do the freakin' math knucklehead! Thing is, one moron actually wrote the story and another moron printed it."

What is worse is these knuckleheads actually believe this is news!

16 posted on 04/25/2005 7:06:41 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: tbird5

What should be our response to crime except punishment and prison?


17 posted on 04/25/2005 7:11:54 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: tbird5

True true...related.


18 posted on 04/25/2005 7:15:47 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: tbird5
Crime rate down, but prison population on the rise

'Tis a puzzlement. (/sarc off)

19 posted on 04/25/2005 7:15:51 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant
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To: tbird5
The commentary blog on National Review online had a pithy response to this type of headline. The writer wondered if we would ever see a headline like: "Prison population declines, but crime on the rise."
20 posted on 04/25/2005 7:16:00 PM PDT by PMCarey
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To: tbird5

The MSM, always happy to get/put it backasswards ain't they?


21 posted on 04/25/2005 7:16:06 PM PDT by Waco
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To: tbird5
Crime rate down, but prison population on the rise

From dictionary.com:

but
conj.
  1. On the contrary
  2. Contrary to expectation

Contrary to expectation??? On what planet?

22 posted on 04/25/2005 7:17:14 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (The murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo - NOT IN OUR NAME)
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To: quadrant
It's just a wild guess on my part, but I have a hunch that if we build many more prisons, and make the penalty for crime a little stiffer, return to chain gang style prison labor, crime rates will fall drastically, perhaps to the point that we may have to close prisons periodically due to low enrollment of those seeking the splendors of prison life.
24 posted on 04/25/2005 7:19:56 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: tbird5

And in other news, "Car Accidents Down, But Vehicular Death Rate Drops"


25 posted on 04/25/2005 7:24:28 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: tbird5

In other news today, researchers have determined that water is wet.


26 posted on 04/25/2005 7:24:54 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: tbird5

I'd say a good percentage of the rise is attributable to the illehal immigrant population and we know the MSM won't report on that.


27 posted on 04/25/2005 7:32:13 PM PDT by conshack ((Illegal immigration is the #1 threat to Homeland Security))
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To: tbird5

How many are illegal immigrants ?


28 posted on 04/25/2005 7:34:15 PM PDT by John Lenin (It's not like you have a home country to go back to)
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To: baystaterebel
Thing is, one moron actually wrote the story and another moron printed it.

Remember that someone edited it and the city desk approved running the story so that's two more morons in the chain.

29 posted on 04/25/2005 7:35:04 PM PDT by AZHua87
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To: tbird5

You mean to tell me the crime rate drops when the crooks are in jail? That's crazy! Why, it might even be controversial!

/Sarcasm


30 posted on 04/25/2005 7:37:42 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Next they will be telling us that the number of religious people in the colleges and universities has something to do with the fact that religious people have larger families and secular humanists and communists have more abortions.


31 posted on 04/25/2005 7:42:28 PM PDT by KateatRFM
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To: tbird5

Lousy headline. Should be:"Prison Population on the Rise, so Crime Rate Down".


32 posted on 04/25/2005 7:43:56 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: tbird5

"While the U.S. crime rate has fallen over the past decade, the number of people in prison and jail is outpacing the number of inmates released"

Gee, does that mean we should release more inmates so that we can get the crime ratio up to what it was 15 years ago?


33 posted on 04/25/2005 7:58:41 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: expatpat
Lousy headline. Should be:"Prison Population on the Rise, so Crime Rate Down".

It goes wayyy beyond the headline. There's a lousy ideology behind the whole article, for which a lousy headline is but the most tiny symptom.

34 posted on 04/25/2005 8:13:58 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: tbird5

OMFG....we were poking fun at this exact same stupid headline over a year ago.


35 posted on 04/25/2005 8:18:27 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I'm thinking we get one of these about every 6 months.


36 posted on 04/25/2005 8:27:24 PM PDT by Cosmo (Now accepting donations)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I am no expert on penology, but I doubt that that the threat of punishment will deter crime.
The willingness to do evil springs from character flaws within the man; unless a man - whether in jail or free - wants to "rehabilitate" his inner self, sooner or later those character flaws will grow dominant enough to cause action.
When that happens, the threat of punishment becomes irrelevant.


37 posted on 04/26/2005 1:00:45 AM PDT by quadrant
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