Posted on 04/26/2005 5:02:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Sterilization.
I'm sorry. Couldn't resist.
I can also envision some civil litigation with the school system, the parents and their children as plaintiffs - a real "class action".
"That also means mom will have to find a way to stay home with her"
Hmmmm...you may have hit upon something here, though :)
grrrrr.....
"Sterilization.
I'm sorry. Couldn't resist."
lol! I have the same exact thought at least once a day.
I think the officers did the right thing by handcuffing her -- this child was obviously out of control and she could have caused some real harm, not only to others, but to herself as well. As it was, the tape showed her punching someone (the assistant principal or whoever). "Arresting" her and putting her in a police car -- well, I think that might have been over the top. But restraining the child I think was the best anyone could have done under the circumstances.
The other thing is: We don't know whether this child has some physical or emotional problem that caused her to act out. I could only hope her parent(s) will look into that possibility, if he/she/they have not already done so.
The conversation happened three or four years ago. He wasn't married then, he was just becoming visible as a pro-golfer. The young women had to have been very very smart and accomplished. I felt very bad for them because they didn't realize that being negative like that rubs off on them.
BTW I thought Tiger Woods was half Asian and 1/4 black.
She hasn't, believe me. The mother is part of the problem.
That reminds me: My grandmother would not marry my grandfather until he legally changed his name. She was only half Jewish and had her father's WASPy maiden name. She did not want to be a Mrs. Finkelstein because it was so identifiably Jewish and she didn't want her children to suffer because of it. This was in the 20's and there was a lot more prejudice than there is now. I think.
W&I 5150 in this state is instant justification to take control of an individual for their own safety and for other's safety, regardless of age.
You may count the number of hits (misdemeanor battery) the girl laid into the vice principal. You may look closely and see her try to bite also when removed from the top of the desk or table. Age has no bearing on the law. To NOT cuff her, and have her continue to attack others and property would have been wrong.
If I was the VP, I would swear out charges of battery and PC 594 vandalism in this case, and force the mother to have to stand before a judge and be accountable for this child, and possibly be forced into mandatory counseling. The child would be then, in this state, a W&I code 601 (incorrigable) or a W&I code 602 (juvenile offender) and would have the system of probation become involved to check on the family for improvement over a period of time.
I've already made up my mind to, on day one of school, tell the teacher that if my son causes any problems for her or is in anyway not a good boy to give me a ring and we'll be sure to nip it in the bud.
I haven't totally decided whether or not to send him to the county school here (thank God it definitely won't be city schools) or some private Christian school like I went to. Just not sure yet..
Just a thought, but an important one. It would appear that the mother of this child is fairly low income and probably not very highly-educated, however, it is also important to remind parents of any income or educational level that there is such a things as over-parenting. That can be just as harmful as under-parenting and neglect.
He's pretty mixed like I am, except my mom isn't from this country and the indian blood is Arawak :-) He also was raised by a immigrant mother and a patriotic father like myself which brings on a completely different dynamic in one's mentality. My mom had adopted Tiger as her son except he doesn't know it yet.
When you say over parenting -- what do you mean? I'm genuinely interested.
You make a very important point.
She hasn't, believe me. The mother is part of the problem.
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And that's too bad. It's so easy to blame the school, the officers, etc. etc. rather than determining the root cause of the problem and seeking a possible solution that would be beneficial for the child.
True story: Friends of my father's had a daughter who had a learning disability. She was first sent to Catholic school where the nuns immediately recognized the problem and told the parents about it. Instead of trying to get help for their daughter, the parents pulled their daughter out of Catholic school and sent her to public school. She "graduated" from public school, but in reality, she was just passed from grade to grade without really receiving an education. Had she received some sort of special education, she might have been reasonably productive within the limitations of her disability.
You sound like you have it pretty together as a parent and I congratulate you. It takes responsible families to make a village! :) I had four and my youngest is a mother. For me, it's a "been there, done that" thing, but I know when this became a major societal issue. That was back in the late eighties and early nineties and EVERYTHING changed. I wish you luck.
You said exactly what I was thinking as I was viewing the videos.
Well I defintely don't have it 'together' but I do analize this stuff a lot because I want to make sure he grows up to be a proper young man. I'm lucky his mommy is there, she's the parent really, I'm the pushover. :)
Pinellas.......smells familiar.....
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