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Mom, 5-year-old girl in video fires lawyer, moving out of state
St. Petersburg Times ^ | April 26, 2005 | THOMAS C. TOBIN

Posted on 04/26/2005 5:02:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Manic_Episode

"Where's Dad?"


He ran like hell when the little monster came on the scene!


41 posted on 04/26/2005 5:38:19 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: old and tired

oops. a=an


42 posted on 04/26/2005 5:38:32 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: mickie
I agree.

Also in Florida, the case of a well-behaved boy - who only wanted to bring water to Terri Schiavo and therefore was handcuffed and taken away - received hardly any attention.

43 posted on 04/26/2005 5:38:55 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: LibSnubber

Pinellas County School supervisor also said that the mother had told the school they had better not ever lay a hand on her daughter. This child has a history of disruption at school.

The principal tried to deal with the child with her training in crisis prevention but couldn't, so tried to call the school police who were busy with something else and couldn't go help, so she called the city police who had been called another time for this same child.

The first time, the police had only talked to her, and had told her they didn't want to be there but if they were called again they would have to put her in handcuffs.


44 posted on 04/26/2005 5:39:08 AM PDT by TexasTaysor
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To: SampleMan

Why.... That's CHILD ABUSE!


45 posted on 04/26/2005 5:39:10 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Since then, wrenching video images of the wailing kindergartener being handcuffed...

I didn't find the video all that "wrenching".

Also on Monday came the prospect that the Rev. Al Sharpton would be coming to town. The famous New York crusader...

Now this, I find "wrenching".

46 posted on 04/26/2005 5:39:17 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: SampleMan

The mother is fleeing the state to avoid prosecution.

Regarding the cuffing, the girl was a danger to herself and others by struggling to avoid confinement. The cops had a difficult call and made a correct decision. It is not at all clear the girl was not drugged up in addition to being super honery.


47 posted on 04/26/2005 5:39:40 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: DumpsterDiver

L0L


48 posted on 04/26/2005 5:41:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: brwnsuga
But to handcuff her seems a little severe

If she had been allowed to continue her tantrum and injured herself or another the school district would have been in even deper trouble.

49 posted on 04/26/2005 5:41:10 AM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: mickie
It is a shame they couldn't contact the mother before the police arrived.

I watched the video - they DID contact the mother & she said she couldn't come till after 3. This is just insane. If I'd acted like that in kindergarten, the teacher would have put me over her knee, popped my butt, and that would have been that. I don't think I've ever seen a kid who literally needed a pop worse that this one - she worked herself into hysterics, daring the ineffective 'teachers' to stop her, and they legally couldn't. Three quick smacks would have stopped that tantrum, and traumatized her a lot less than being taken away in handcuffs.

50 posted on 04/26/2005 5:41:11 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: TexasTaysor

School calls you and says your child in out of control "again".

You say I will be right there in 1 and 1/2 hour - what gives with that?

Probably could not get off work?


51 posted on 04/26/2005 5:41:32 AM PDT by MudSlide
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To: DumpsterDiver

If Al Carpton comes to town to meet poor, little, abused Jaklesia, I hope she whollops him up side the head....in front of 18 zillion cameras.


52 posted on 04/26/2005 5:41:58 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: brwnsuga
But to handcuff her seems a little severe.

Once the mom forbade the school to touch her child, she made the cuffing almost inevitable.

Consider how hard it is to handle even a small cat who doesn't want to be handled. To subdue a fractious child without physically harming her is no picnic. And if the kid is used to getting her own way, she's not going to go quietly when someone starts clueing her in on the facts of life.

Padded restraints might have been better, if any were on hand, but compared to causing the child so much pain that she had to comply, to clubbing her or tazing her, I think restraining her with cuffs isn't too bad.

Mind you, I come to this with the esperience of being in a 45 minute battle of wills with a darling litte 5 year old girl who had never had to do a thing for herself. I asked her to take her coat off. She told me to take it off. And the race was on. 45 minutes, tears, and tantrums later, she unbuttoned her coat and joined her playmates. (Two days later she told me she wanted to marry me!)

My wife currently is dealing with a 7 year old girl who has basically wasted an entire school year for her classmates. The school's hands are tied.

And then there's the time when my wife came home with a perfect imprint of a juvenile dental arch -- uppers and lowers -- on her lower arm. I personally would have charged the child with assault and battery, but that's because I'm not a nice person.

Nope, handcuffs are modest and judicious.

53 posted on 04/26/2005 5:42:16 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (My P226 wants to teach you what SIGnify means ...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Saw Trevena on Fox yesterday morning. He fits the stereotype of every ambulance-chasing contingency-based piece of filth you can conjure up.

The Brits have a law against barratry (lawyers looking for and cooking up cases) - it is sorely needed here.

Hilarious that after refusing to answer questions directly for hours on TV, he got the heave.

Have you noticed how some people respond to a camera pointing at them? They absolutely have to act up, regardless of age.


54 posted on 04/26/2005 5:43:47 AM PDT by relictele (so there)
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To: brwnsuga
She had absolutely no respect for adult authority. The interesting part of the video was that she did have respect for adult authority; the police. When the cops arrived, the little girl sat right down; something she wouldn't do for the teacher. This would seem to indicate that the child has had some experience dealing with police. IMHO this would either mean some sort of abuse in the home (which would be consistent with her other behaviors) or mom might have some other issues.
55 posted on 04/26/2005 5:44:11 AM PDT by danno3150
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To: Dallas59

Al will probably rub some feces on her and put her in a garbage back and then blame the cops!


56 posted on 04/26/2005 5:44:15 AM PDT by MudSlide
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To: NCLaw441

I so, completely disagree. If someone decides to label her because of her name that is their problem. My daughter's name is what could be considered ethnic and I hate to brag again on FR but she is an gifted honor student, plays viola in the school orchestra, excels at field hockey and has been invited to attend the Govenor's Science and Math camp this summer. American culture is made up a variety of ethnicities and cultures and all should be appreciated. If anything, Ja'eisha's only handicap is her mothers lack of caring. Not her name.


57 posted on 04/26/2005 5:45:15 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: SampleMan
She should have been given a good paddling on her bottom with a switch.

Spare the rod, spoil the child.

Not that I'm a big fan of public school or anything, but if you're going to run one, children must be disciplined.

58 posted on 04/26/2005 5:45:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: SampleMan
My sister-in-law, brother-in-law are extremely liberal...

...but they retired early from teaching because of the lack of respect from the students, and the principal's lack of support when things got out of control...

.....and the principal's hands were tied because of all the rules and regulations regarding how a student can be or cannot be disciplined.

So therefore, even for my liberal in-laws, the inmates ruled the asylum, and the in-laws wanted out!

I hope they realize the 'cause and effect'.

59 posted on 04/26/2005 5:45:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: MudSlide

garbage bag!


60 posted on 04/26/2005 5:45:38 AM PDT by MudSlide
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