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Mom, 5-year-old girl in video fires lawyer, moving out of state
St. Petersburg Times ^ | April 26, 2005 | THOMAS C. TOBIN

Posted on 04/26/2005 5:02:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: NCLaw441

>> Who, blacks included, would use an accountant by the name of Ja'eisha?

I agree, but is Condoleeza an exception to this rule? Not challenging your assertion, but it sprang to mind.


61 posted on 04/26/2005 5:45:39 AM PDT by relictele (so there)
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To: relictele

Oops, s/b Condoleezza


62 posted on 04/26/2005 5:47:07 AM PDT by relictele (so there)
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To: Mad Dawg
In other words poor, little, abused Jacklisia needs to be fined and arrested for wasting valuable State time and resources, and preventing other children from learning...... That's the only way you would get the Left to understand this.
63 posted on 04/26/2005 5:47:10 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: bert
The cops had a difficult call and made a correct decision.

I'm beginning to wonder if we were more physical parents to our children than most people here. I don't think the cops had a tough choice at all. This kid was kicking and hitting. Nobody at the school was allowed to physically restrain her, so the cops did what cops do - they cuffed her.

Then again, when our kids were small, my wife would sometimes have a toddler who wouldn't sit in a coach on a "harness" to prevent them from running into traffic. I always called it a leash.

64 posted on 04/26/2005 5:47:28 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: MudSlide

This is clearly a case of...

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65 posted on 04/26/2005 5:47:41 AM PDT by auntyfemenist (Show me your papers...)
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To: brwnsuga

Don't be baited.

There's always a class clown that ends up looking the fool.


66 posted on 04/26/2005 5:48:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: brwnsuga
But to handcuff her seems a little severe.

What should they have done? The child was completely out of control, destroying property, and school officials had been implicitly warned they would be sued if they so much as touched the girl. Then the mother told them she was too busy to come to the school immediately to deal with it herself.

I understand your revulsion over the handcuffing, but I'm hard-pressed to think of what else they might have done. It seems to me that allowing the child to freely destroy property and physically strike out at other people for an hour and a half is not an acceptable solution.

This is a highly unusual case. The mother (and apparently absent father) should be held strictly accountable, IMO. Lack of parental involvement and discipline is where the real problem appears to lie.

67 posted on 04/26/2005 5:48:13 AM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: brwnsuga
Obviously this child needs a good swat. She had absolutely no respect for adult authority. But to handcuff her seems a little severe.

The girl needed to be restrained pure and simple as soon as she became destructive. The thing I don't get is that it appears in the video that by the time the cop got there, she had already calmed down, and was sitting quietly in a chair.

I would have supported some type of restraint, including handcuffing when she was being destructive, but once she calmed down -- as she appeared to do -- I think they were out of line to hand-cuff her.

68 posted on 04/26/2005 5:49:03 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: brwnsuga
#57..I can understand why you would take offense...

.. but that comment was the rude opinion of one poster and he/she doesn't speak for the rest of us.

I know you are proud of your child and should be.

69 posted on 04/26/2005 5:49:33 AM PDT by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
District officials say the video started as an exercise by the girl's teacher to improve her craft in the classroom.

So how did the lawyer get custody of the video? Didn't the teacher or the school own it?

70 posted on 04/26/2005 5:49:34 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: auntyfemenist

oops, image didn't show up. Go figure. Well, anyway. I am sure this parent told the school more than once "not MY child."


71 posted on 04/26/2005 5:50:31 AM PDT by auntyfemenist (Show me your papers...)
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To: Maceman

Maybe she saw the Law thru the office window and knew exactly what to do.


72 posted on 04/26/2005 5:51:03 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: brwnsuga

Don't worry about those people. It's just a stereotype because reserve for black people. My sister has a very ethnic name that is actually Russian and I think my mom thought it was italian *lol*


73 posted on 04/26/2005 5:51:25 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: relictele

What do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

A good start!

_______________________________________________

There are too many lawyers.


74 posted on 04/26/2005 5:51:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lockbar
Actually, as I understand it, the family summers in Marseille. She should be okay as the locals tend to keep to themselves.

(La fille peut s'avérer errer parmi les bidons de détritus vers le bas par le quai.)

75 posted on 04/26/2005 5:51:36 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: bert

Hmmm. In watching the video, it seems that she settled down and was sitting in the chair the minute she saw the police. I did not see any reason at that point for her to be handcuffed. They needed to wait for the mother, expell the child from the public school system, make a referral to children's services and recommend counseling. What is with all the video cameras in the school?


76 posted on 04/26/2005 5:51:42 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Mad Dawg
Our local schools still manage to control their classrooms with a semblance of order. How? The kids have a "ticket" system. Green ticket means everything's fine. Yellow ticket is a warning. Red ticket means the parents are called.

When the parents come storming into the office, they're really mad- at their disobedient child. They take their child home, and the next day the child returns humble and apologetic.

The system works like a charm. You just have to have good parents.
77 posted on 04/26/2005 5:52:06 AM PDT by keats5
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The shame is parents who don't seem to know how to be parents.
I took my Mother to an event that was sponsored by the garden club, and a little girl (no more than 8) talked to her father like he was her slave and he just stood there looking like a whipped dog. I will add that this father and daughter were non-black and quite upper class.
Black children do tend to suffer more from parental abdication because of the lack of fathers and, as someone mentioned earlier, being strapped with a name that's hard to pronounce and that invites laughter and criticism.


78 posted on 04/26/2005 5:53:20 AM PDT by katieanna (My Redeemer Liveth!)
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To: brwnsuga

"If anything, Ja'eisha's only handicap is her mothers lack of caring. Not her name."

I agree with you a name is not everything... except I'd add what appears to be a lack of a father-figure alongside her disgusting-excuse-of-a-mother. I fear one day Ja'eisha might have a knife in her hand and will be swinging that. THEN whose fault will it be? Ja'eisha is the poster child for all that's wrong in society, and it doesn't end with just what's wrong with our school system.


80 posted on 04/26/2005 5:54:44 AM PDT by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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