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1 posted on 04/26/2005 6:10:55 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie
"...they're getting the American nightmare."

"...they're getting creating the American nightmare."

*there*...all fixed!

2 posted on 04/26/2005 6:16:22 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck (The Flogging Will Continue Until Morale Improves)
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To: Boston Blackie
Oh yeah, the nightmare of welfare worth 100 times what they ever made, free education, fee medical, thousands of failed, but free liberal programs... yeah, real nightmare.

If we continue to let the moonbats control the language, and make illegal legal, leach into immigrant, "Give us your angry, your insane, your massing terrorists...yearning to wreck havoc on our nation."

Show me any law abiding foreigner working hard to earn citizenship and learn the language, I'll show you someone who has my utmost respect, and deserves all the benefits of being an "American".

Otherwise... get the hell out, and stay out.

/generalized flame off.

4 posted on 04/26/2005 6:22:47 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Boston Blackie
Advocates for illegal aliens are one or more of the following:
*traitors, terrorists
*drug dealers, pedophiles or other criminals
*paid activists, someone with personal gain
*merely hate this country
*mentally ill
6 posted on 04/26/2005 6:27:07 PM PDT by Dante3
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"U-S immigration policy is so complicated that many people could starve to death before they could immigrate legally"

Lets increase the complications, it might just cure problem!

Remove all life support for illegals, medical, food, housing, etc.

Arrest, fine, imprison their employers and they will have to return to their country of origin.
8 posted on 04/26/2005 6:27:23 PM PDT by dalereed
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Ping - we need to treat illegal aliens better.


9 posted on 04/26/2005 6:31:26 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Boston Blackie
But Mario Johnson, with National People's Action, says that "instead of the American dream, they're getting the American nightmare."

Illegal aliens are getting the "American nightmare" because they're entering the United States illegally. If they would come here legally, then they could persue the "American dream".

The advocacy group says U-S immigration policy is so complicated that many people could starve to death before they could immigrate legally.

Funny, I don't see many Mexican illegal aliens who look like they're starving to death. In fact, many of these illegal aliens pay smugglers thousands of dollars to get them safely over the border. So apparently these illegal aliens have plenty of money to buy food.

11 posted on 04/26/2005 6:40:24 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: Boston Blackie

Most of the usual suspects fronting for Business have been absent.

Lately all there is are the ACLU and this no-name group that has little tradition with immigration.

Maybe the National Immigration Forum is refining their attack - or spending less money on it.


13 posted on 04/26/2005 6:50:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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This is our future.

Fernando Ortiz was a ‘landscape engineer’ on Long Island who had demanded to be able to vote, on the basis that he had been paying state and federal taxes for ten years. Actually, he had been stopped from casting a ballot by a poll watcher who had suspected his citizenship status, and (illegally, as it turned out) demanded proof of his identity and legal qualification to vote. Ortiz had won a multi-million dollar settlement against the Republican Party of New York in the subsequent “racial profiling and ethnic intimidation” civil suit, but he did not stop there.

Instead, with massive support from the ACLU and various Hispanic “immigrants rights” foundations, he had pressed his demand to be allowed to vote all the way to the Supreme Court…and he won. The Supreme Court, in its famous 5-4 decision, ruled that negligence in securing America’s borders against illegal immigration on the part of the federal government, could not be held against “undocumented workers who played by the rules and paid their taxes,” once they were established in America—legally or not. The federal government had not taken reasonable efforts to secure the border, and had not pursued "undocumented workers" in the USA. Instead, it openly permitted them most of the benefits of citizenship, and it collected their taxes. "No taxation without representation!" was the cry heard all the way to the Supreme Court. The State of New York had then sleep-walked through an aimless and desultory case for denying the vote—and citizenship—to “undocumented workers.”

Following Ortiz v. New York, a stunned America woke up to discover that there were not only an amazing twenty-two million illegal aliens hiding in plain sight across the land, but that eight million of them immediately qualified to vote. In a nation split 50-50 down party and ideological lines, these eight million new voters were recognized to be the certain majority-makers in future elections, and both parties set record lows for cravenness in pandering to their “needs.” Chief among their “needs” were liberal new family reunification laws, and these instant citizens—illegal aliens only a year before—began bringing the remainders of their families to the USA. Legally.

Overnight, wavering Democrat states became locks, and swing states with large Hispanic populations went solidly “blue.” The result was the recent election which had brought Gobernador Deleon to power in Nuevo Mexico, and had also brought radical Democrats to power in the White House and both houses of congress.

Thus had come the political tsunami which swept all before it, a tidal wave triggered by an undocumented lawn maintenance worker named Fernando Ortiz.

15 posted on 04/26/2005 7:39:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Boston Blackie
Illegal aliens learn "the system" before they even cross the border. They know all about false documents, welfare fraud, free medical care, free everything, and our government lets them get away with it.

They have a sense of entitlement like nothing I've ever seen before. How can anyone say they're being mistreated? We, the American taxpayers, are the ones being mistreated and cheated, along with being lied to by our "leaders".

28 posted on 04/26/2005 11:40:59 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minutman Project - American patriotism!)
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In short, we can't take care of the world's problems. Its time to put Americans first.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
34 posted on 04/27/2005 3:14:58 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Boston Blackie

They are creating a nightmare for the citizens and Legal residents of this country. What a lie they tell.

We go all over this planet enforcing borders for countries who cannot, and we leave our own fort gates wide open for invasion.

That is wrong.


35 posted on 04/27/2005 3:39:48 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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Hethmon says the problems that drove them from their countries must be addressed there, not in the U-S.

As I see it now the future of Mexico is in question. Enabling the emmigration of their people shows they have given up. The only step that remains is annexation and determining how many new US states will be formed from the former 32 Mexican states.

51 posted on 04/27/2005 7:26:35 AM PDT by mpreston
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[[ Advocates for illegal immigrants say they deserve the same chance as the ancestors of most Americans.]]

They deserve????? Since when are people entitled to come to this country????


52 posted on 04/27/2005 7:30:12 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: Boston Blackie

What planet are they on? If nothing else haven't they heard
Americans are fed up with illegal immigration? This "we can't wait around to immigrate legally means "screw you gringos, your laws suck, we don't have to follow them, we are here so give us the benefits, meanwhile we will wreck havoc or your culture".

Kinda' makes the bile rise in my throat.


56 posted on 04/27/2005 8:00:42 AM PDT by Recall
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What a mess and the illegal immigrants get more arrogant by the day as their numbers increase. That's what happens when you let problem fester. The children of illegal immigrants are legal if born in America. Another huge problem ahead.


57 posted on 04/27/2005 8:05:28 AM PDT by dennisw (takemetotheriver dropmeinthewater)
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I am against shiny new laws for government and business to ignore but there is one new law I'd like to see.

Maybe a court decision could make it so without a shiny new law. To wit, advocates for ILLEGAL immigrants should be considered de facto sponsors and as such "deeming" would apply.

All resources of the advocate-sponsor would be deemed to be available to the immigrants.

Advocates say ILLEGAL immigrants deserve the same chance as our ancestors. I agree -- if the advocates pay all the living expenses of the ILLEGAL immigrants, their families, aged parents, cousins. . . .

End of advocates for ILLEGAL immigrants, I bet. (Though it is a very lucrative industry rivaling the civil rights industry.)

75 posted on 04/27/2005 2:02:51 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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