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Wow the chaplain said this?
1 posted on 04/27/2005 7:54:10 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

I think that he may have torn a slightly sizable hole in her credibiliity.


2 posted on 04/27/2005 7:59:18 AM PDT by ECM
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To: Peach; Howlin; No Longer Free State; SittinYonder; Old Sarge; wagglebee; PeskyOne; Gunrunner2; ...
UPDATE PING Hall rape case (Jennifer Dyer).

Did it not use to be that a victim would go to the chaplain? If it were me (it is so easy to Monday night quarterbacking) I would have, so having a chaplain testify on behalf of the prosecution must make an impact on the credibility of the accused??

I PINGed names to those who have replied on the prior Jennifer Dyer thread and to those who have followed the Hasan Akbar case and the Hunter Army Air Field Hoax with a few from the thread of the molester who committed suicide.

I also added a few names of those who I have enjoyed reading in years past, let me know if you wish not to be PINGED to this story/case in the future. I so enjoy a good, fair and polite discussion on current events, so thanks in advance.

Apr. 23, 2005 Town torn over molester's suicide (plus my vanity as the victim of a violent crime)

4/26/2005 UPDATE: Prosecution rests in penalty phase in Akbar court-martial - Hasan Akbar)

3 posted on 04/27/2005 8:41:00 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: GeronL; Cvengr; beaversmom; jess35; 82Marine89; Nov3; Marie; kalee; DollyCali; koba37; everitt12; ..
PING

In the event you wanted to follow the Dyer case, I gathered the names from a thread I posted last year.

4 posted on 04/27/2005 8:44:17 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick
I knew a guy that spent a whole port visit in a hotel with a fellow midshipman. Three days later she filed charges of rape. Even after the court martial charges were dropped he still got fried by the academy administration.

I really wonder what happened in this case.

8 posted on 04/27/2005 8:53:11 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Former Military Chick

"She said she was physically overpowered and too frightened to call for help."

What is she doing wearing a uniform ??


11 posted on 04/27/2005 9:19:05 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: Former Military Chick
As I mentioned on a prior thread, this babe was a SOLDIER. She was going to go to Iraq.....to a war.

Somebody tell me if soldiers don't get some combat defense training and martial arts experience in the months before being shipped out.

She claims she was "afraid" of the accused. I wonder why she didn't deliver a well-placed kick you know where.

This is one of the reasons I don't believe her story.

Leni

19 posted on 04/27/2005 1:06:21 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: Former Military Chick

Thanks for the pings. I have been out of town, and have just read your ping of the 24th, and I feel bad about the fear you are living with and the reason for it. Praying you will receive some help and solutions to deal with it. I agree the chaplain raised questions about the credibility of Jennifer Dyer. If she has lied about Lt. Hall, she should be punished for attempting to ruin his life. If he's guilty, he should be punished. Anxious to find out the outcome of this!


20 posted on 04/27/2005 1:43:32 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Former Military Chick

ACQUITTED!!!!!

found at: http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/state/11505154.htm

Army officer acquitted of raping soldier in her barracks room

SAMIRA JAFARI

Associated Press


FORT RUCKER, Ala. - An Army officer was acquitted by a military judge Wednesday of raping a soldier in her barracks room, a claim the defense said she concocted to keep from being sent to Iraq.

First Lt. Mike Hall, 35, of Nashville, Tenn., was also acquitted on an adultery charge but convicted of having sex without informing his partner that he had genital herpes.

Hall had testified in his court-martial that a night of dancing, flirting and kissing with 1st Lt. Jennifer Dyer, 26, last August led to consensual sex, not rape as she alleged.

He said Dyer invited him into her room at Camp Shelby in Mississippi and that, during two short episodes of intercourse, he stopped both times when she said "No."

The military judge, Col. Richard Gordon, was to hold a sentencing hearing on the sex transmission charge later Wednesday.

In closing statements, defense attorney Victor Hall said Dyer, a National Guard soldier from New Jersey at the time, was desperate to avoid deployment to Iraq and contrived the rape claim as a last resort.

"Michael Hall became a target of her action," he said.

The prosecutor, Capt. Richard Dodson, said the evidence against Hall showed he "has no respect for Army values."

Dyer went public with her story on CBS' "60 Minutes," complaining that Army investigators doubted her claim and put her in a hotel room without access to a phone for two days. After being given two weeks' convalescent leave by the Army, Dyer refused to return to Camp Shelby, and was not there when her unit was sent to Iraq.

Dyer has since been honorably discharged and returned to her law enforcement job with a sheriff's department in New Jersey.


24 posted on 04/27/2005 5:34:21 PM PDT by edfrank_1998
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To: Former Military Chick

Looks like the rape charge was to cover-up the STD she got (and didn't want to tell her fiancee about) after all.


25 posted on 04/27/2005 5:35:52 PM PDT by edfrank_1998
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To: Former Military Chick

"But a medical expert testified that it takes at least two weeks to test positive, an indication Dyer had the disease prior to Aug. 9."


found at: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050427/NEWS01/50427014/1002

April 27, 2005
Sex with fellow soldier consensual, not rape, Army officer testifies

By Samira Jafari
The Associated Press

FORT RUCKER, Ala. — An Army officer accused of raping a soldier in her Camp Shelby, Miss., barracks room testified today that a night of dancing, flirting and kissing led to consensual sex, not rape.

First Lt. Mike Hall told a military judge at his court-martial that 1st Lt. Jennifer Dyer invited him into her room and that, during two short episodes of intercourse, he stopped both times when she said "No."

Dyer, 26, who was a National Guard soldier from New Jersey at the time, testified earlier that Hall forced her to have sex twice early on Aug. 9, 2004, at Camp Shelby in Mississippi. Hall, 35, of Nashville, Tenn., told the military court today the sex was consensual.

The defense contends Dyer made up the rape story to get out of the Army and to avoid being deployed to Iraq. Dyer claims that Hall, once in her room, grabbed her hair, tore off her clothes and forced her to have sex while she was too afraid to call out for help in the barracks.

Along with the most serious charge of rape, Hall is charged with adultery and knowingly transmitting a sexual disease without informing the partner.

Hall, whose wife has sat outside the courtroom daily and held hands with him before proceedings, was cross-examined by prosecutors concerning the adultery charge. "My marriage matters," he said.

Hall said he has known since 1997 that he has genital herpes but a doctor told him that he had "no chance of being contagious if I was not symptomatic" or experiencing an outbreak at the time of sex.

Dyer, who got married after the alleged rape and is now eight months pregnant, tested positive for genital herpes on Aug. 13, 2004. But a medical expert testified that it takes at least two weeks to test positive, an indication Dyer had the disease prior to Aug. 9

In his testimony, Hall said he met Dyer briefly on the afternoon of Aug. 8 and later offered her a ride to the officers club. He says she flirted with him by leaning close in conversation, touching his arm and revealing a tattoo on her lower back by pulling down the waist of her pants.

He said they slow-danced and she tried to teach how to say "take me home, take me to bed" in Arabic.

Hall said they did leave the club separately without Dyer saying goodbye to him. But he said they ran into each other outside their barracks, Dyer approached him and they started kissing. When they both realized it was risky to kiss outside the barracks, Dyer offered that they go to her room, where they began having intercourse, he said.

"We were having sex and it was not long at all before she said, 'No.' I immediately rolled off," Hall testified. "As any guy would, I made sure she meant 'No,"' Hall said, without elaborating.

He said he then wanted to leave because "I didn't want to feel like I was raping her." But he said when he tried to leave, Dyer approached him at the doorway, they started kissing and began to have sex again. They had just begun, he said, when Dyer again said "No. I can't do this."

He said he left and went to sleep in his nearby room until military police woke him up a few hours later.

Dyer, called back to the witness stand Wednesday, denied showing the tattoo to Hall at the club and trying to teach him any Arabic. She said she does not speak Arabic.

Dyer testified earlier she went public with the story, on CBS' 60 Minutes, after Army investigators doubted her claim and she was put in a hotel room without access to a phone for two days.

Dyer admitted Monday that she refused to return to Camp Shelby at the end of August, after being given two weeks convalescent leave, and missed her unit's deployment to Iraq in November.

Dyer renewed her resignation request in December 2004 and was granted an honorable discharge in January, backdated to Aug. 31, 2004, to eliminate the time when she was AWOL. The 60 Minutes interview was broadcast in February.

Dyer eventually returned to work in her law enforcement job at the Salem County Sheriff's Department in New Jersey.


26 posted on 04/27/2005 5:56:27 PM PDT by edfrank_1998
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To: Former Military Chick

So does her "honorable discharge" remain the same after making these claims on CBS no less?

Wow, a female police officer and National Guardsman can't even defend herself???

Egads -- thank God she wasn't sent to Iraq to endanger the lives of our true heroes!!!


31 posted on 04/29/2005 8:08:17 AM PDT by victim soul
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