Posted on 04/27/2005 1:18:58 PM PDT by jb6
V-Day anniversary is no reason for celebrations - Vilnius
26.04.2005, 21.29
VILNIUS, April 26 (Itar-Tass) -- The Lithuanian Parliament thinks that the 60th anniversary of the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany is not a cause for celebrations.
“One cannot describe as a victory the event that extended the occupation of other countries, brought about enumerable losses and trampled upon expectations of democracy,” says a Tuesday statement by the parliament.
“The victory over Nazi Germany extended for decades the occupation of Lithuania and other Baltic countries,” the parliament said.
Earlier this year Lithuanian President Valdas Adamkus refused to visit Moscow on May 9 for celebrations of the victory anniversary.
somehow they're all gonna end up blaming the USA for the soviet occupation not caring one whit that it was the USA that was instrumental in ENDING it.
I haven't gotten that buzz from Eastern Europeans, just the opposite, actually.
They love the US.
There's a lot of people who thought we should have let Patton have his way. Appeasing Russia brought about peace, but the price was extremely high.
And lets not forget that the Lithuanian Legion was a division in the Hitler loyal SS. Nor that the Lithuanian and Estonian SS helped exterminate Jews and were part of the forces destroying Warsaw block by block.
Harry "The Hop" Hopkins, FDR's alter ego, ensured that the USSR got tens of tons of nuclear materials in the Spring of 1943 ... over a year before the Trinity Test. Oh, known now via the VENONA porject, "The Hop" was a Soviet agent.
There were no Russian brigades in the Waffen-SS, Hitler's orders. There were Russian units, Cossaks and auxillaries in the Wehremacht. If you are comparing the Wehremacht to the SS, you've got a huge deficit in WW2 knowledge.
No, you've got a huge deficit in WW2 knowledge.
Yes, unfortunately there were Baltic Nazi collaborators, just as there were throughout all of occupied Europe. But any people who suffered from FDR's toadying to his beloved Uncle Joe have good reason to take any "celebrations" of Soviet victories with a five pound bag of salt. Eastern Europe was caught between the German hammer and Soviet anvil, and either choice was lousy. Concerning any post- 1945 conflict between the U.S. and the Soviets I am very skeptical about casualties in the millions had we(wisely) chosen to obliterate the Communists. Remember that Nazi forces were initially greeted as liberators in the Soviet territories they conquered. Imagine how Americans would have been received by the captive peoples of the Soviet gulag state when they arrived offering true liberation. The post-war world would have been a far happier place had Roosevelt not been a semi-closeted Bolshie and paid attention to the great Winston Churchill, who proposed an Anglo-American alliance to "strangle the Soviet infant in its crib".
The Americans wouldn't get a good response, first by then no one trusted invading outsiders, not after 20 million dead. Second the US army would have had to fight across half of Europe against twice as many men and air parity. Plus the US supply chain would have been across the Atlantic and all of Europe. Not gonna happen.
studied there => they've no love for USSR
The point is that there shouldn't be Russian, Lithuanian, Polish or any other "National" truth. There should be a truth with no Nationality attached. Russian Leadership should not keep on repeating these Stalin era myths that Molotov-Ribentropp pact was a "necessity" to move Third Reich further to the West and that it was anything other than a brief tactical Nazi-Soviet alliance with tragic consequences for E. Europe. Modern Russian leaders should also look honestly at the role of Stalin regime in establishing communist puppet regimes in E. Europe at the end of WWII or shortly thereafter.
Baltic States in turn should not mythologize their own SS Legions or pro-Nazi Police as "freedom fighters" or defenders of the freedom and deny or downplay their role in Holocaust and other Nazi mass murders. We need to hear the whole Truth--not fictions or distortions of the reality.
When was this? The USSR didn't even declare war on the Japanese until after we achieved victory over them.
The official Capitulation of Japan was on Sep 2, 1945 (if I'm not mistaken), so there was still fighting in Manchuria and elsewere between Soviet and Japanese Troops in August.
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