"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right – a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit."
"No state, upon its own mere motion, can lawfully get out of the Union. Plainly, the central idea of secession, is the essence of anarchy."– Abraham Lincoln (not too much later)
These two quotes are not contradictory. Lincoln was carrying the tradition of the founding fathers of Liberty and Equality when deciding to use force to perserve the union. The Confederates were not revolutionary, rather counter-revolutionary, acting in insurrection and rebellion against the ideas of the founding fathers, carrying the entire South with them in their perverted idea of liberty meaning individuals can be property and other individuals, having the right to own property, can hence own other individuals. This, under the flag of States rights, thought it to be tyranny when the Republicans took the federal government and seceeded because they lost the election, knowing that Republicans might dare use the Constitution to guarantee rights to ALL individuals. Thus, the South did not have the Moral clarity to have a legitamate revolution.
Sorry, i wont be around to argue with the neo-confederates.
Another Freeper sent me this.
On this point, Lincoln had the sympathy of a 20th century admirer who wrote:
“[I]ndividual states of the American Union . . . could not have possessed any state sovereignty of their own. For it was not these states that formed the Union, on the contrary it was the Union which formed a great part of such so-called states....Certainly all the states in the world are moving toward a certain unification in their inner organization. And in this Germany will be no exception. Today it is an absurdity to speak of a ‘state sovereignty’ of individual provinces....In particular we cannot grant to any individual state within the nation and the state representing it state sovereignty and sovereignty in point of political power....National Socialism as a matter of principle, must lay claim to the right to force its principles on the whole German nation without consideration of previous federated state boundaries.”--Adolph Hitler in Mein Kampf
Gee, I thought You still had some slaves up Nawth after the WONA started.
I suppose We agree on many things, but why do I get the feeling that You want Me to scrape and bow every time You walk by? I am no less proud of My heritage than You are of Yours.
I am not racist, I select Friends based on shared values, and perhaps oddly, all My Friends, black, white, or otherwise, are Southerners. The democrats keep thinking they can do without Us, what do You think?