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We won NOTHING.
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True. What we did get out of it, was a clear picture of POLITICS over and above, NATIONAL PRIORITY. Washington, for a long time now, is far more interested in its own personal politics, than it is about what is right for the country. Viet Nam (and I served during Nam) was a huge tragedy of politics, engineered and perputated by LIBERALS, at an obscene cost in lives and money. My contention is that Washington has still not learnied its lesson, but of course, it did/does not have the pay the bills -- those of lives and the money.

The U.S. set itself up for defeat by not fighting a war. Just participating in one, playing with it, while fueling it with blood and taxpayer dollars.

True. What we did get out of it, was a clear picture of POLITICS over and above, NATIONAL PRIORITY. Washington, for a long time now, is far more interested in its own personal politics, than it is about what is right for the country. Viet Nam (and I served during Nam) was a huge tragedy of politics, engineered and perputated by LIBERALS, at an obscene cost in lives and money. My contention is that Washington has still not learnied its lesson, but of course, it did/does not have the pay the bills -- those of lives and the money.
The U.S. set itself up for defeat by not fighting a war. Just participating in one, playing with it, while fueling it with blood and taxpayer dollars.

You got that right.
The military has been "keeping score" these last 30+ years. I think that's why there are those, thank God, who won't leave Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other front, without a "W" in the win column.

Thank you for serving!

I think it was General Robert E. Lee who said, "Strategy wins wars. Tactics wins battles".

In Vietnam, we won every battle, but lost the war. McNamara set the pattern for the "strategy", or lack thereof, that lost the war.