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More 20-somethings depending on parents again
The Sun News ^ | 5/2/05 | Rick Montgomery

Posted on 05/02/2005 8:31:54 AM PDT by qam1

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - (KRT) - Signs of the new normal for young adults seem to be piling up like ripe sweat socks in the bedroom of your 20-something son down the hall.

We used to dismiss it as a "slacker" thing - an odd fad, we thought, of a generation that appeared content to take its sweet time before leaving the nest, finishing college, getting married and making commitments their parents began considering at 18.

Researchers now prefer the term "adultescence," and they're not kidding. The life stage between the late teens and late 20s is undergoing what many describe as a permanent transformation brought on by economic, educational and even biological forces, all irreversible.

"It has happened quietly, and it's here to stay," said David Morrison, president of Twentysomething Inc., a market research firm that has tracked the lifestyles of young adults for 15 years. "The stigma of depending on your parents is gone."

Consider some of the factors: Grinding college debt. Spiraling home values. An ideal of marriage, tempered by a culture of divorce, that waits for the perfect soul mate.

Gone is the labor economy of high-paying factory jobs that once offered a lifetime of security after high school. Here to stay, at least for a few more decades, are baby-boom parents who easily fret and don't mind indulging their kids.

When will we - or should we - grow up?

Here are the latest indicators of a society willing to wait:

The average age of U.S. women marrying for the first time has climbed from about 21 to 26 since 1970.

The average age of first-time homebuyers has climbed from 29 to 33 in the last decade.

Four-year bachelor's degrees now usually take five years to complete. Students juggle more and longer internships, often unpaid, enabling workplaces to get by without expanding their staffs.

One in five 26-year-olds is living with a parent, according to a recent Time cover story that coined yet another generational label, "twixters."

They are "a new breed of young people who won't - or can't? - settle down," the magazine proclaimed. "They're betwixt and between."

In March even the U.S. Supreme Court weighed in on the elastic state of maturity, bumping up to 18 the minimum age that young murderers can face execution for their crimes.

Before ruling, the court reviewed new studies showing some areas of judgment and reason in the brain do not fully develop until well into a person's 20s.

So, get used to adultescents - also known as the "kidults," "thresholders," and "boomerang babies." Sociologists say we will be seeing more in years to come.

In fact, their numbers are multiplying worldwide: Germany calls them nesthockers, or nest squatters. Italy has charted a 50 percent increase since 1990 in mammones, or people who won't eat anywhere but mama's.

In fast-growing Asian nations, living with the folks is the custom.

In the Kansas City region, more college graduates are returning home to stay a spell with their parents, and more parents seem happy to help in the face of harsh economic truths.

"My dad couldn't wait to see me come back," said Brandee Smith, 25, who last year stopped throwing her monthly paycheck at an Overland Park, Kan., apartment and returned to her childhood home. She is now stowing away savings from her marketing job to make a down payment on a house of her own.

"It's nice to come home after a 10-hour workday with dinner already made and brownies waiting," the University of Kansas graduate said. "Even though you've graduated, a lot of parents don't see you as a complete adult."

Or, in the prevailing view, 21st-century market forces won't let you become a complete adult.

"I used to think raising kids was a 21-year commitment, but now I think it's more like 25 to 28 years," said Pat Stilen, a single mother in the Northland who welcomed back daughter Mary Stilen a few years ago.

Mary, then a recent graduate of the University of Nebraska, was working in a restaurant while struggling to land a career tied to her broadcast journalism major.

An 18-month stay in mom's basement allowed Mary Stilen to pay off $5,000 in credit card bills, make a dent in her student loans, replace the car she had been driving since 16 and recalibrate her future. Now she works in a dean's office at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, where she is close to receiving a master's of business administration degree.

She and her mother wonder how Mary would have landed on her feet otherwise.

"I'd encourage parents to get past their old expectations of when kids will become independent," Pat Stilen said. "Economic times are such, the rules have to change."

The rules already have shifted for a generation that, so far, isn't living as well now compared with when their parents got rolling. For full-time workers between ages 25 and 34, annual earnings adjusted for inflation dropped 17 percent from 1971 to 2002.

Other evidence indicates young adults are choosing to wait longer for their independence. And as life expectancy climbs, experts think that's OK. Could putting off a long-term commitment such as home-buying stave off bankruptcy down the road?

"Some of this is choice, but so much more relates to jobs and the economy," said Robert Thompson, a professor of pop culture at Syracuse University. "Used to be, at 18, you could start testing the waters of adulthood. ... Now, it's a master's degree and beyond to stay ahead.

"It's not so much that society is getting used to it. It's that social and economic forces have set it up in the first place."

Delayed adulthood appears to be taking root in the teen years - driving a car, for example.

As of 2002, only 43 percent of youths ages 16 and 17 were licensed drivers, down from 52 percent a decade earlier, according to a recent report of the Federal Highway Administration and the U.S. Census Bureau.

Although America boasts about a half-million more teens in that age group than two decades ago, those with driver's licenses dropped from 4.1 million to 3.5 million.

"Every generation has its rites of passage, and it used to be getting a driver's license," said Janet Rose, a lecturer of American studies at UMKC. "But at the moment, something like body piercing seems as meaningful a rite of passage."

Soaring gasoline prices don't help. Neither do high insurance costs, especially for the young. Both of these factors have spurred public schools to drop driver education unless a huge fee comes with it.

"I've got friends who drive and some who don't - it's pretty equal," said Patrick Camacho of Lenexa, Kan., who is taking courses at the Kansas Driving School so he may get his license the week he turns 17. "I want to be able to go where I want."

But given that teens are far more accident-prone than are drivers in their 30s, it may be that yesterday's notions about the entry age of adulthood were nonsense.

As the Supreme Court found in reconsidering the death penalty for youths, the latest science shows strong evidence that areas of the brain mature slower than researchers traditionally thought.

Forget the old method of simply weighing brains to determine growth: at age 18 or 40, they seem identical. Yet when it comes to gray matter and the millions of cerebral connections that make humans think like adults, magnetic resonance imaging reveals the wiring may not be fully complete until the mid- to late-20s.

The connections related to impulse, judgment and "thinking ahead" are the last to be soldered.

At Harvard Medical School, researchers have found that youths as old as 17 don't always tap the same brain areas as do 30-year-old subjects when shown photos of people's faces and asked to name the correct emotion.

"If someone insults you at work, an older teen is more likely to throw a punch where an adult would pause and make a sarcastic comment," said sociologist James Cote of the University of Western Ontario.

Before today's "emerging adults" feel ready to plunge into the real world, some such as Anthony Shop choose to pace themselves in hopes of getting it right the first time.

Shop is a senior at William Jewell College. He has a Truman Scholarship to attend the graduate school of his pick. First he'll spend at least a year trying out jobs in journalism, speechwriting or something dealing in international relations.

"Right now I'm thinking international relations ... but it kind of changes by the month," said Shop. "At 22, I don't think it's necessary to choose a permanent career, so long as I'm exploring and thinking about it. Some people have no idea."

Hardly a slacker, Shop already has seen England and Germany as a student. So why wait longer to complete his studies?

It's partly because graduate admissions officials recommend it.

Grab an internship or two, or even six. See other places, try different fields, know what you want, enjoy. It's as much the advice of boomers as it is the natural calling of adultescents.

"We're probably hearing that more from family and professionals in their 40s and 50s," Shop said. "People of that generation look back and think maybe they could've taken more time."

While caution beats rushing into a chosen field, sociologist Cote places some of the cause of stalled adulthood on elders dishing up "false promises and false hopes" to the young.

"We give everyone as much choice as possible. We tell them they all can become doctors or lawyers, when we know the truth is relatively few people wind up there," Cote said. "That's either too much hope or we're lying to them."

Scott Kramer, 37, knows.

He was 18 when he first entered college, and his circuitous journey through academia continues. Now a KU graduate student, Kramer finally will land a master's degree in higher education administration next month.

"If you think back to the mid-80s, when I started, all the yuppies were living life in the fast lane," Kramer said. "The message was: Go out and get it now."

So he tried. Just two weeks after Kramer graduated from high school, his impulses - overcharged by the breakup of his parents - drove him to enter Ball State University in Indiana.

That college dismissed him a couple of times as Kramer jumped from one hot-ticket pursuit to the next.

"Gosh, I've had so many majors," he said: accounting, chemical technology, exercise physiology. He gave up classes for a stretch in the 1990s, worked full time and got married. In the late-`90s economic boom, he enrolled full time at Purdue University in hopes of becoming a financial planner.

"In `99, I'd listen to all the experts about going into financial planning. ... Then the economy went bad." And his marriage fell apart. He moved back in with his mother before he landed at KU.

Here, he may have found his true calling.

Interning at KU's Student Involvement and Leadership Center, Kramer assists nontraditional students wade through financial needs, child-care issues and life's ever-changing expectations.

He wants to make a career of it.

"This," Kramer has discovered, "is my niche."


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To: qam1

I'm tired of reading this bull about my generation not wanting to grow up. The "quarter life crisis" as it's called is simple laziness and a lack of drive.

I'm 24 and have been working full time for 2 years. I graduated college in 4 years - I had no choice since my scholarships ran out in 4 and not 5 years. It meant I took 6 classes a semester, but I did it. Yes, college was hard, but my degree enabled me to get a job that pays well and is usually pretty fulfilling.

My husband and I live about a half hour from our parents...I was chomping at the bit to move out once I started working and after two years of running my own daily life (cooking/cleaning/paying bills) I would NEVER want to go back home to live with my mom and dad. I love them very much, but I have my own life now.

People's parents need to stop coddling their adult children - tell Susie to get off her butt and get a job. I don't think I was that weird in finishing college, beginning my own life, and getting married - but apparently I am!


81 posted on 05/02/2005 9:48:41 AM PDT by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: Nowhere Man

The boomers aren't paying for college so the kids can take their time to graduate, 5-7 years, and the parents don't care what they major in. We payed college for all of our 5 children, and they were private schools. I TOLD them not to waste our money and to major in serious fields. I TOLD them they had to get a job when they got out and to make as much money as we do, they'll have to go to graduate school. So now we have 2 nurses, 2 doctors, and 1 lawyer. We also payed for thier professional schools and gave them an allowance. They had to be accountable to us along the way and heed our advice or we weren"t going to pay! With college loans kids do not have to be accountable to anyone.

I also monitored their grades and IQ. If they wern't smart enough to go to college and major in a difficult field, I wanted to know. I didn't want to lie to them and spend money on college if I knew they couldn't handle it. If professional school was not an option, I would have told them to go into plumbling or open a business in an field they liked, etc. I wanted to know who they were and direct them where they would excell.

Boomers also make their high school kids pay for auto insurance. We paid for theirs, so they would be accountable to us at all times when in the cars. They had to get our permission to use the cars.

The Boomer's kids feel they aren't accountable to anyone especially with public schools and college loans. Also, many of these older children are living at home because the parents have alot of quilt due to divorce.

But staying close to the family and your parents is a good thing.


82 posted on 05/02/2005 9:52:28 AM PDT by tbird5
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To: Arkie2

I'll keep you posted!!!


83 posted on 05/02/2005 9:54:41 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Lou L
Couldn't that enterprising college graduate get a roommate, or take an apartment farther away from the trendy spots? That would go against everything that these young adults see on TV, and in the popular culture. Advertising almost suggests that adults in that age bracket live far beyond their means, and for the many that can't afford it, "going back to the parents" has to feel like the only other option.

That has to have a lot to do with it - the electronics, automotive and "home improvement" industries have every 20 year old thinking he/she has to have a 60" plasma on the wall and a BMW in the driveway - MTV Cribs and whatnot.

Expectations and consumerism have driven credit card debt through the roof, so naturally the kid can't make it on an entry level income.

84 posted on 05/02/2005 9:58:04 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: RexBeach

Turn on the TV, and you'll see 24x7 degradation of men. And we wonder why young men today are perpetual boys.


85 posted on 05/02/2005 9:58:10 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: qam1

*shrug* After college, I lived on my own for a couple of years, then a much better job was available back home so I lived with Mom & Dad for a couple of years (no reason not to, really). Then I got married and moved away again. Don't know why it's such a big deal.


86 posted on 05/02/2005 9:59:01 AM PDT by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: qam1

My brother had to live with my folks for a few months after college, and they charged him $400/month rent. I thought that was pretty funny.


87 posted on 05/02/2005 10:00:05 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: qam1

God forbid these 20-somethings live with their families than burden the taxpayers by going on welfare.

Whereas all the seasoned citizens getting SS checks are on welfare.


88 posted on 05/02/2005 10:01:15 AM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: All

I'll offer a thought here.

We are disquieted by this story because it departs from our sense of traditional norms.

The traditional norms, however, did not include a uniformly liberal set of university faculties nationwide who have made it their lives' work to increase their own pay far beyond the rate of inflation.

Who pays for that? Students, and an enormous amount of debt. That debt is what makes today's world different from "traditional norms". It's not about housing, or food or gasoline. It's about student debt. A bright young person today either goes into huge debt or he or she does not get a degree. Period.

That's a really tough choice.


89 posted on 05/02/2005 10:05:14 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Search4Truth
And we wonder why young men today are perpetual boys.

As a society we have failed to emphasize critical values, like character, honor and discipline.

Instead, we glorify pop stars, actors and sports "heroes" that lack all of the above, whom our children associate with "success" - hard work is for losers.

90 posted on 05/02/2005 10:05:23 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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I graduated from college and moved back home with my mother.

To start graduate school where I could get a part time job, pay for my own classes/books, and still earn my MA before joining the workforce. I saved a TON of money in what would have been student loans for living expenses, and I drove the same vehicle I had when I was 16.

If I had not gone back to school, I would have been independent though.


91 posted on 05/02/2005 10:06:38 AM PDT by shag377 (De gustibus non disputandum est)
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To: qam1

While I don't live in my parents' basement, I do live on a cabin in their property rent-free. It's a common sense way to recoup finances after college and frees up time to research & improve skills. Topcoder, here I come...


92 posted on 05/02/2005 10:17:19 AM PDT by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: qam1
Ridiculous. I finished my "4 year" degree in 2 1/2 years at age 19. A year of graduate school finished all my master's course work. I married at age 21 and purchased my first house. That was 1978.

My #2 son graduated from high school at age 18 in 2001. Off to USMC boot camp a month later. He's a licensed real estate agent at age 22. He will finish his business degree in March 2006. He will have his broker's license in a couple months. He's has been self supporting since Nov 2001. The USMC provides some assistance for his college costs. He pays for most of it out of pocket.

I think we have a coddled generation of people who aren't trying very hard.

93 posted on 05/02/2005 10:42:34 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: qam1

Sounds like the circle is slowly turning, and we're getting back to the days when it was normal for multi-generations to be living under one roof.

Is that so bad? Family supporting family? It's a good way to build family wealth, by sharing the same roof and putting some money (not all, understand) toward the "family" expenses.


94 posted on 05/02/2005 10:48:49 AM PDT by duckbutt ( If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get soaking wet.)
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To: RockinRight
All I know is that at (not quite) 28 years old, I make more money than either of my parents and have lived on my own since I graduated from college. I couldn't wait to move out! I don't know how these people can do this.

I moved out of my parents' home (for all intents and purposes) when I went to college at age 18. The idea of moving back in with them has always rated about as highly as eating crushed glass.

95 posted on 05/02/2005 10:50:27 AM PDT by Modernman ("Work is the curse of the drinking classes." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: macaroona
Young people should live at home (provided they pull their weight and everyone gets along) until they're married and then the old folks can go live with them when they need care.

You've just defined my vision of hell.

96 posted on 05/02/2005 10:57:04 AM PDT by Modernman ("Work is the curse of the drinking classes." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: macaroona
The worst of these is the MBA - I have never seen anything more generally useless and pathetic than an MBA when it comes to relating to real business conditions. Too much theory, too little practice.< P> This MBA agrees with you, although it did allow me to triple my salary post graduation (although my debts outstanding also increased substantially thanks to student loans).
97 posted on 05/02/2005 11:10:11 AM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: qam1

I just want to make it clear...

I don't live with my mother, my mother lives with me...

:-)


98 posted on 05/02/2005 11:35:50 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: tbird5
I TOLD them they had to get a job when they got out and to make as much money as we do, they'll have to go to graduate school. So now we have 2 nurses, 2 doctors, and 1 lawyer. We also payed for thier professional schools and gave them an allowance.

My parents are still helping me get through law school. I could not have gotten where I am without their help and sacrifices.

99 posted on 05/02/2005 11:38:52 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: macaroona

thank you! i'm glad you said it.


100 posted on 05/02/2005 11:39:40 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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