The "topic" is "Nations Christian Roots attacked". My personal experience along that line are witnessing people who hate Christians because a few of them are forcing a particular enterpretation of Genesis into public school science classes.
I am completely on topic, and it's the inability of many creationists to recognize the anger they provoke thats a large part of the problem.
Why do you think the Kansas school board is world famous, if not for the fact that many people feel very strongly about their children being taught something they disagree with?
A famous saying in the crevo threads is that "creationism is a cancer on conservatisim". Your post is an example why, because you apparently have no clue that some people, many of them Christians, really dislike fundimentalist creationism.
What the heck is "fundamentalist creationism"?
From the very beginning, the church has never been afraid of science, but rather, it embraced(s) it. Discovery of God's work is something to be marvelled. Remember, God created us in his own image, By that reason, we should be able to learn and understand how he does (did) things. We only discover what he has already created however.
Yes, it is - it's NOT evolution vs creationism.
My personal experience along that line are witnessing people who hate Christians because a few of them are forcing a particular enterpretation of Genesis into public school science classes.
So that's your personal experience, eh? Two things - you need to get out more, and you really ought to rethink your circle of acquaintances.
That's doubtless one reason some people "hate" Christians, but I really think there's a bit more to it than attempting to teach a class in high school.
I am completely on topic, and it's the inability of many creationists to recognize the anger they provoke thats a large part of the problem.
Some of the the shrillest comments I've read, just not here, but anywhere, come from the evos. Rather than calmly and rationally present their collective cases (which, I might add, may have merit), they almost invariably resort to bashing down into the ground those who don't accept their dogma.
Many people, especially those bred with a degree of manners and tact, find this unseemly and distasteful, and is, I believe, one of the prime reasons the evos haven't established a bigger beachhead in this battle of ideas.
It is, after all, ideas that we are pursuing here, and if one's confidence level in presenting them requires belittling those who disagree, and resorting to ad hominem attacks to blunt a respondent's parries, how effective does that argument appear? If you're going to present ideas in the marketplace of the world, be sure you have sufficiently thick skin. It's a brutal world out there.
Why do you think the Kansas school board is world famous, if not for the fact that many people feel very strongly about their children being taught something they disagree with?
There are also many people who object to having their kids exposed to a long, long litany of questionable things, evolution included.
Personally, I have no objection to evolution being presented in schools - as long as the kids are made aware there is another school of thought out there. Religion doesn't have to be "taught", but the fact that there is another viewpoint existent should be presented.
The role of academia, after all, is inquiry, most favorably open inquiry. Of course, today, that's little more than a pipe dream, and the simple fact of the matter is, after the great bulk of these kids "graduate", they'll have to forget most everything they've "learned" and start teaching themselves, if they want to grow at all and make something of themselves.
They don't have to embrace creationism, any more than they have to embrace evolutionism. No, the aim, the end product, should be the ability to think for one's self, to obtain accuracy in thinking, if you will. You don't get that by being exposed to just one school of thought. The world doesn't work like that.
A famous saying in the crevo threads is that "creationism is a cancer on conservatisim". Your post is an example why, because you apparently have no clue that some people, many of them Christians, really dislike fundimentalist creationism.
Yeah, and a lot of people, many of them Christian, really dislike fundamentalist evolutionism, especially as it's being thrust down their kids' throats virtually unopposed, mainly through the efforts of people like you.
In passing, you think my post, which took you to task for straying off topic (admit it - you were) is an example of this "cancer on conservatism"? Maybe so, but how about you? The guy leading off the discussion talked about the growing divide in the nation, an obvious reference to the growing Left-Right split the nation is enduring. (That, BTW, is what the article's thrust was - a left-leaning "religious" front opened an attack on Christians, a growing phenomena today.)
But for you, that just wasn't good enough. No, instead you offered up a loud and insulting, "it's your fault!"
I was not impressed, and I don't think many others were, either,
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