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Roger Ebert and others question Johnny Hart's latest B.C. comic(calls Darwin stupid)
Poynter ^ | 05/01/05 | Poynter

Posted on 05/03/2005 2:13:25 PM PDT by Pikamax

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To: Borges

Very smug and arrogant. It was only a ten minute encounter several years ago, but he was a tool during it.


41 posted on 05/03/2005 2:33:49 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: Skooz

Not really. Mostly just sigh in exasperation.


42 posted on 05/03/2005 2:34:10 PM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: Pikamax

It's a personal statement. So?


43 posted on 05/03/2005 2:35:14 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: wideawake

He hasn't been at his best in over ten years but when he was I think he was an outstanding critic and writer. He was sort of a less pompous Pauline Kael.


44 posted on 05/03/2005 2:35:32 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Patrick1

Considering how unreliable Ebert's reviews are (payola?) and his delusional hysterics over "Gods and Generals," it is no wonder he has switched to reviewing comics.


45 posted on 05/03/2005 2:37:52 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: LibWhacker
It is satire, not profound social commentary. Why do many people want to take it literally or infer some deeper message? The punch line is that Darwin made a monkey out of us, i.e., the theory of evolution. Hart is not taking a position of evolution, just poking fun at it.

Darwin as a young boy developed an interest in natural history but started his advanced schooling at Edinburgh in medicine, a subject he soon learned to detest. Later at Cambridge, where he went to prepare for a career in the clergy, he showed no interest in his theological studies, but became acquainted with a botany professor, the Rev. John Henslow, who was destined to become his mentor and to have a profound effect on his life.

It was Henslow who encouraged Darwin, following his graduation from Cambridge, to take an extended sea voyage and exploration of the world outside of England. Darwin took advantage of the opportunity -- without pay - and became expedition naturalist and gentlemen's companion to Capt Robert FitzRoy, on the HMS Beagle. The intended 3-year voyage stretched to 5 years, and Darwin had wonderful experiences as he circumnavigated the world, spending over 3 years of the 5 exploring the coastline, flora and fauna of southern South America.

It reminds me of the unbelievable reaction to Laura Bush's comedy routine. People need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

46 posted on 05/03/2005 2:38:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Pikamax

Looks like it has little bit of something for everyone.

If Rog stops after the first two panels, I'm sure he would be happy.

Even the ending can be taken to have more than one meaning.

Pretend that he is subtle, even an atheist can read a satisfactory meaning into it.


47 posted on 05/03/2005 2:38:06 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: Borges
He hasn't been at his best in over ten years but when he was I think he was an outstanding critic and writer.

I don't have the perspective to make that call.

It strikes me because I just watched Jules et Jim again this weekend, and as I usually do after seeing a well-made movie, I check imdb and other sites for reviews and compare my reaction to others'.

Ebert's review was so simplistic and facile - drawing ridiculous comparisons to crap like Thelma and Louise and embarrassingly misquoting one of the key pieces of dialogue in the film - that I couldn't believe this guy gets paid to put on airs.

48 posted on 05/03/2005 2:42:55 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: ken5050

My favorite one:
First frame; three large boulders on high cliff
Second frame; character struggles and pushes one off
Third frame; character and friend at the bottom of cliff
next to boulder. friend asks 'why did you do that?'
first character replies,'in one million years they will try to figure how we got the other two to the top'


49 posted on 05/03/2005 2:44:29 PM PDT by paradoxical
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To: Pikamax

I always liked BC. Good job Mr. Hart! If the liberals can attack our Lord. We shall attack theirs, Charles Darwin.


50 posted on 05/03/2005 2:46:24 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: kabar

Thanks for that view, kabar! Darwin was an extraordinarily brilliant man, a very great scientist. People who deny that are much, much less impressive, imho. But the whole topic has become way too politicized for me!


51 posted on 05/03/2005 2:46:24 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: wideawake

He does get slack from critics who aim for a more film savvy audience that he's too populist. He's a genunine film buff however unlike most 'entertainment journalists' who call themselves film critics despite the fact that they don't have a clue who Howard Hawks or Vincent Minnelli were much less Dreyer or Ozu.


52 posted on 05/03/2005 2:46:29 PM PDT by Borges
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To: LibWhacker
Ok, as we know from a previous post that Christian intelligence is an oxymoron ... so that must be what I am ... but I just do not get it! Am I missing some of the cartoon?
53 posted on 05/03/2005 2:47:02 PM PDT by roylene
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To: Junior

Oh there's a crybaby stance: Only stupid people disagree with me.


54 posted on 05/03/2005 2:47:52 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Dante3

Gee...that's something for your obituary:

"Robert Ebert, noted comic strip reviewer, unreliable one time movie reviewer, and raunchy film maker."

A real testament to the ages.


55 posted on 05/03/2005 2:49:19 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: blues_guitarist

I was responding to the commic you posted and remembering the criticism it generated. Sorry that I didn't make myself clear.


56 posted on 05/03/2005 2:50:20 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I did not say you disagreed with me, I said you read into my statement something that wasn't there. Obviously, from this latest post, it wasn't an isolated incident.


57 posted on 05/03/2005 2:54:03 PM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: roylene

NOT an oxymoron! Look at the great Christian theologians: Aquinas, Augustine, etc. Anyone who thinks those guys are stupid . . . well, 99.99% of such people couldn't understand them, even if they tried. Hart was just making a little pun: Darwin turned us into monkeys, 'ya see, hahahaha!


58 posted on 05/03/2005 2:55:55 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Borges
He does get slack from critics who aim for a more film savvy audience that he's too populist.

Well the film obsessives can get way too esoteric, but Ebert's review wasn't so much populist as sloppy.

JeJ is a film full of powerful symbols and he doesn't scratch the surface.

He's a genunine film buff however unlike most 'entertainment journalists' who call themselves film critics despite the fact that they don't have a clue who Howard Hawks or Vincent Minnelli were much less Dreyer or Ozu.

Speaking of which, have you seen Criterion's reissue of The Passion of Joan of Arc? - expensive, but worth every penny.

59 posted on 05/03/2005 2:56:44 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Robert Ebert is the largest POS in newspapers, after the 2000 Election was finalized, he wrote a scathing article about the neanderthal, knuckle-dragging, bible thumping, NASCAR loving rednecks who were going to destroy this Country now that W is President.

A couple days later he wrote "I shouldn't have wrote it, but I don't regret thinking it" mea culpa.

He's the biggest pompous @ss I can think of, period.


60 posted on 05/03/2005 2:58:24 PM PDT by wrathof59 ("to the Everlasting Glory of the Infantry".........Robert A Heinlein)
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