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IBM to Cut Up to 13,000 Jobs, Take Charge
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Posted on 05/04/2005 1:51:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

IBM to Cut Up to 13,000 Jobs, Take Charge Wednesday May 4, 4:29 pm ET IBM to Cut 10,000 to 13,000 Jobs, Record Pre-Tax Charge of Between $1.3 and $1.7 Billion in 2Q

NEW YORK (AP) -- International Business Machines Corp. said Wednesday it would cut between 10,000 and 13,000 jobs and record a pre-tax charge of between $1.3 billion and $1.7 billion in the second quarter.

IBM surprised investors last month when it missed first-quarter earnings estimates by 5 cents a share. When it reported earnings, the chief financial officer Mark Loughridge said the company would take a "sizable restructuring."

The majority of the cuts are planned for Europe. The company began cutting jobs at its European operations even before it announced its first-quarter earnings. The cuts are in line with analysts' estimates.

The company plans to realign its operations and organizational structure in Europe to reduce bureaucracy in lower-growth countries.

IBM stock traded on the New York Stock Exchange at $77.07 a share, up 60 cents, late Monday.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ibm; layoffs; linux
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1 posted on 05/04/2005 1:51:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Why don`t they give the finger to the unions and hire illegals? Everybody`s doing it and it`s fun and cheapo! Weeeeeeeeee!

IRVING BERLIN lyrics - "Everybody's Doin' It Now"


[1st verse:]
Honey, honey, can't you hear?
Funny, funny music, dear
Ain't the funny strain
Goin' to your brain?
Like a bottle of wine, fine
Hon', hon', hon', hon' take a chance
One, one, one, one little dance
Can't you see them all
Swaying up the hall
Let's be gettin' in line

[Refrain:]
Ev'rybody's doin' it
Doin' it, doin' it
Ev'rybody's doin' it
Doin' it, doin' it

See that ragtime couple over there
Watch them throw their shoulders in the air
Snap their fingers
Honey, I declare
It's a bear, it's a bear, it's a bear
There!

Ev'rybody's doin' it
Doin' it, doin' it
Ev'rybody's doin' it
Doin' it, doin' it

Ain't that music touching your heart
Hear that trombone bustin' apart?
Come, come, come, come let us start
Ev'rybody's doin' it now

[2nd verse:]
Baby, baby get a stool
Maybe, maybe I'm a fool
Honey, don't you smile
Let us rest a while
I'm so weak in the chest, best
Go, go, go, go get a chair
No, no, no, no leave it there
Honey, if the mob
Still are on the job
I'm as strong as the rest


2 posted on 05/04/2005 2:00:12 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (ALL YOU BASE ARE BELONG TO US)
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To: Sub-Driver

IBM seems to be following the trail blazed by AT&T on its way to obscurity.


3 posted on 05/04/2005 2:02:52 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: skip_intro

Along with Digital and Wang.


4 posted on 05/04/2005 2:05:14 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Little Pig

What does this have to do with Lenovo?


5 posted on 05/04/2005 2:07:43 PM PDT by Skinn_dogg
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To: Sub-Driver

I thought the Gates-haters were saying that IBM was about to wipe out Microsoft with new and innovative software developments.


6 posted on 05/04/2005 2:09:55 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Little Pig
Along with Digital and Wang.

Wang! Now there's a blast from the past.

I used to have friends who worked at Digital back in the glory days. Seemed like it was a great place to be, then. Then Compaq came along and ruined everything (and don't get me started on HP).

7 posted on 05/04/2005 2:14:30 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: skip_intro
Having worked for both of them, I can tell you that IBM is better managed. Actually this is good management. They had bloated EU staff. THey pumped it up to make the Eurocrats happy, but they really did not get much out of it. THey really need regional offices over there, not offices in each country.

IBM is far from going the way of AT&T.

8 posted on 05/04/2005 2:31:00 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Cicero

As far as I know, IBM doesn't have any unions, at least, in the US. That's why they're allowed to downsize.


9 posted on 05/04/2005 2:39:26 PM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: skip_intro
Yup, we're stuck fixing an IBM Web Services product right now, that IBM then out sourced to the two cheapest hacks they could find in Russia. I've seen some very good code out of Russia before, but not this monstrosity. This looks like it was written by a couple of bozos who read the 21 Days to Java Mastery books. IBM delivered this broken piece of junk minus all documentation too. Said pay us more money if you want any support. Total junk.
10 posted on 05/04/2005 2:42:59 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
As far as I know, IBM doesn't have any unions, at least, in the US. That's why they're allowed to downsize.

True, but in some European countries, a six month notice has to be given before a person can be attrited.

It's much harder to cut jobs in Europe than in the US.

I've never understood why IBM doesn't use more agents in Europe and Asia, instead of their own employees.

11 posted on 05/04/2005 2:43:17 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Skinn_dogg
Not much. The rationale for Lenovo was that IBM wasn't making any money in PC's - they had become a cutthroat commodity and IBM wished to work on higher value added products and services. So - shedding a loser hardly implies these cuts.
12 posted on 05/04/2005 2:48:17 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: jb6
During my last years at AT&T, upper management decided that we should start outsourcing everything to contractors. Sometimes the contractors would pack up and leave because they got a better offer at another company. Other times, they'd demand a renegotiation of their contract in the middle of a project, and we did renegotiate because they had us over a barrel.

It always fell to the dwindling AT&T technical staff to fix or complete the contractors' creations when they walked off the job or flaked out. Needless to say, in the late 1990's, AT&T wasn't a very pleasant place to work.
13 posted on 05/04/2005 2:59:06 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: Sub-Driver
The majority of the cuts are planned for Europe.
14 posted on 05/04/2005 3:00:46 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: Sub-Driver; Nick Danger; ShadowAce; Bush2000; GeorgiaFreeper

Looks like IBM's major wager on Linux and open source to drive future sales in Europe has blown up in their face big time. Of course, some of us saw this coming a couple of years ago, and have been predicting it all along, right here on Free Republic.

They invested millions in the highest profile deal of all, to convince the city of Munich Germany to use Linux instead of the standard Microsoft products, which Munich did, but instead of picking IBM for the installation and support, they chose some little company in Germany that is taking a free copy of Linux and slapping their name on it instead. And why wouldn't they.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1385002/posts

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1059540/posts

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/919045/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1154643/posts


15 posted on 05/04/2005 6:46:43 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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To: Cicero
I thought the Gates-haters were saying that IBM was about to wipe out Microsoft with new and innovative software developments.

They've been shouting it from the rooftops ever since IBM stabbed a stake in the heart of the US UNIX business and started pushing Linux on us instead. Doesn't look like it's working out too well for IBM. Microsoft? Record profits every quarter.

16 posted on 05/04/2005 6:48:55 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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To: Sub-Driver

No specific explanation for a $1.5b charge?


17 posted on 05/04/2005 6:51:07 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: skip_intro

The lawyer who once employed me years ago had a top-of-the-line Wang, but it was too old to use.


Wow, THAT didn't sound right at all....


18 posted on 05/04/2005 6:56:50 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: Petronski
No specific explanation for a $1.5b charge?

The cost of trying to sell free software.

19 posted on 05/04/2005 6:57:53 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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...but instead of picking IBM for the installation and support, they chose some little company in Germany that is taking a free copy of Linux and slapping their name on it instead.

Nope. You're a little behind the times here, GE.

Munich chose Debian, an American company, for it's implementation.

20 posted on 05/05/2005 5:24:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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