FDR didn't give a damn about the Jews

jewishworldreview.com ^ | May 5, 2005 | Sidney Zion

[manny613]

--nor did the NYTimes, which brought Jewish self-hatred to a head long before the rubric gained popularity

New book documents with painstaking precision story nobody else woould. t's a given that The New York Times ignored the Holocaust, a sin of omission confessed by the paper itself.

[dfwgator]

But the NYT sure loved Uncle Joe.

[OldFriend]

The NYT didn't exhibit self hatred,it was all about the elites hating their lessers.

Nothing has changed, todays jewish liberals are for the most part considering themselves the elites and have little or no use for those jewish people they consider lesser.

[thoughtomator]

The NY Times would be printed on human skin if they thought it would advance their ideology.

[Enterprise]

bump for later read

[Brilliant]

Sort of reminds me of the "Abraham Lincoln was gay" people.

[FormerACLUmember]

FDR and the democrats knew fully of the Holocaust from 1942 onwards and did absolutely nothing. They also turned the St. Louis away, before this time, sending the entire shipload of German Jews to their deaths.

[massgopguy]

FDR lied, Jews died.

[Nathan Zachary]

The NYT's ignored the great famine, the Ukrainian holocaust as well, even more people died in that one than Hitlers genocide of the Jews.
How they could ignore the starvation of well over 10 million people, forced to grow and process the food, only to have it all taken away to fill Stalins "collective farming" quota's is unforgivable. They are doing the same thing by ignoring the genocides around the world at the hands of Islamic fundamentalists. The place should be burned to the ground and a marker put in the vacant spot identifying it as the most evil place on earth.

[mowkeka]

But the NYT sure loved Uncle Joe. Can you get more specific with this? I'd heard this before, but a quick search on google yields very little.

[steve-b]

Search for "Walter Duranty" (IIRC).

[Alter Kaker]

FDR and the democrats knew fully of the Holocaust from 1942 onwards and did absolutely nothing.

Well, in fairness, what could they have done? From 1942 onward, the US was fully engaged in World War II and was doing everything in its power to defeat Nazi Germany and end the Shoah.

They also turned the St. Louis away, before this time, sending the entire shipload of German Jews to their deaths.

Not quite accurate. The refugees on the St. Louis returned to Europe, yes, with the largest portion winding up in England, and others in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, etc. Nobody knew that Germany would later conquer all of Europe, even if war was on the horizon. After all, France did have the largest and best equipped army in Europe. So while many on the St. Louis did die, their deaths are not the fault of the United States.

The United States would have to have known in advance (1) That World War II would start. (2) That Germany would invade Western Europe and not simply Poland. (3) That all of Western Europe would be conquered by Germany. (4) That Nazi Germany would start systematically exterminating Jews, which they did only three years later starting in 1942. In 1939 the Nazis were interested in expelling Jews from Germany, no more.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

In 1940 FDR ran on a platform of keeping us out of WWII. But according to The New Dealers' War by Thomas Flemming, the US Navy was harassing German U-boats in contravention of the rules of neutrality "throughout the summer of 1941."

The summer of 1941 began on or about June 22, 1941, didn't it? Guess what day Germany invaded the Soviet Union?! FDR's point man Harry Hopkins moved heaven and earth to get Stalin whatever he wanted.

Being antisoviet was a hanging offense in the Roosevelt Administration.

[armymarinemom]

i have often wondered if our troops with undeveloped film leaving the concentration camps helped to expose just how bad the camps were. My father had his film of Dachau developed and they were seized by our government along with everyone's photos. The soldiers who still had film in their camera's undeveloped were the only ones who had photos when they arrived home.

It was still quite a while before any photographs hit the news.

[Bar-Face]

I think this "trying to get into someones head" 60-65 years after the fact is pretty lame. FDR had a pretty full plate for most of his 12 years in office. Could he have prevented the Holocaust? NO! Could he have lessened the Jewish deaths? MAYBE! As much as I fault FDR for many of today's problems, I also know that hindsight is always 20/20 and foresight is probably closer to 100/50 or whatever.

[manny613]

All I can say is that i spoke once to a guy who flew over Auschwitz and the only excuse he had -because he told me that the army and country knew about and were made to know about it-was that if they bombed Auschwitz those guys would rebuild them so fast-they only wanted to target things that would have REAL EFFECT -like armaments and the such.Auschwitz wasn't such a case.

[Skeeve14]

FDR had no problem with letting "Jews" build the Atomic Bomb...

[Alter Kaker]

All I can say is that i spoke once to a guy who flew over Auschwitz and the only excuse he had -because he told me that the army and country knew about and were made to know about it-was that if they bombed Auschwitz those guys would rebuild them so fast-they only wanted to target things that would have REAL EFFECT -like armaments and the such.Auschwitz wasn't such a case.

I agree. The only way to save an appreciable number of Jews was to defeat Nazi Germany, and the way to do that was to bomb factories, munitions depots, etc., and NOT Auschwitz. If the US had bombed Auschwitz, the Germans would have repaired any damage quickly (there was very little there to bomb). Moreover, Jews would have been killed in the raids, and the US was worried that the Nazis would exploit that in their propaganda, announcing that America really didn't care about Jews either, and was actually targeting them. This isn't about FDR or the Democrats, this is just a revisionist effort to blame America for the Holocaust. And its no more right for supposed Conservatives do this than it is for Chomsky or Howard Zinn.

[Alter Kaker]

In 1940 FDR ran on a platform of keeping us out of WWII. But according to The New Dealers' War by Thomas Flemming, the US Navy was harassing German U-boats in contravention of the rules of neutrality "throughout the summer of 1941."

Are you suggesting that the US shouldn't have been helping the Allies to defeat the Nazis?

[manny613]

Jews didn't built bomb-US built bomb.Einstein and bunch were used by US to finish war-which it accomplished.
If Jews were REALLY in control-alot of things would have been different.
They have a famous phrase to show how the Jews felt about Roosvelt:

"Jews believe in 3 Velts(worlds in yiddish)
Di Velt (this world),yenner velt(the World to Come) and Roos Velt"
So I thing that it was intimidation of the Jews and sheer callousness(and hopefully nothing worse ) that caused things to be the way they were.