Posted on 05/05/2005 6:59:27 PM PDT by MagnusMaximus1
"Only a few sore losers from the military-industrial complex and war-mongering profiteers were upset at the loss of our bases over there back then."
That is a matter of opinion. Ever time we lose access to bases overseas, it can be viewed as shrinking our over all military presence world wide. We had a very good situation going in the Philipines. Now hypothetically, how would you feel if we had to remove all our military facilities from Okinawa? Would you have a similiar opinion?
As for the rest of the civilized world not wanting to invade Iraq. So what. How many of those billions of peoples even had a clear picture of what had been going on in Iraq for twenty plus years? I don't buy your arguments. But surely you as I have a right to voice our opinions.
But surely when you make a quotation like "military-industrial complex and war-mongering profiteers", it says a lot about where you are coming from. Would you suggest we pull all our military basis out of every country world wide?
Exactly my point. We have nukes in Okinawa but the Japanese have no say-so over how they are used. If Japan were to get the bomb the ChiComs would probably be a bit less likely to start saber rattling.
IW: "They don't have the bomb."
YW: "Exactly my point. We have nukes in Okinawa but the Japanese have no say-so over how they are used. If Japan were to get the bomb the ChiComs would probably be a bit less likely to start saber rattling."
Heck I can't argue with that analysis. And Japan's relative pacification has created some problems in the Pacific rim. It sure could be nice to have a Great Britain in those far northwest waters. The Chicoms would go nuts. But the Chicoms don't want to nuke anyone. They want to dominate the world through continue support of communist revolutions, and gain a equal or superior commercial strangle hold on the world. And mostly just stay in power and pretend that free market systems are what they are really after which is most probably a bunch of baloney. They are a patient people as you probably are very aware. Anyone in power wants to stay in power if un-apposed.
I think the only reason they have not taken Taiwan yet is because they have no way to project their military. Once they can start getting large numbers of soldiers from point A to point B, watch out.
"I think the only reason they have not taken Taiwan yet is because they have no way to project their military. Once they can start getting large numbers of soldiers from point A to point B, watch out."
I have no problem with your analysis. Guess we have to keep the over all scenario clear in our minds however. The Chicoms would have to do irreparable damage to the Island's military fortifications, bases, wipe out their airforce, coastal navy, etc.. Then land by air, wave after wave of paratroopers, assuming they are working on this capability, and move a huge invasion landing fleet across the straits.
Now would Taiwan and the United States just sit by idlely and allow the Chicom military to do that? Obviouse to you and I we could include a lot more things in the partial list I scribbled out. And surely the Chicoms have no intent on nuking the island. Then they would not be able to habitate it for a long time. Plus they would destroy the trillions of dollars of high tech companies which is what they really want to get their hands on in my humble opinion, yes and to under pretenses of national pride, unite the country into one.
I follow you there. The Taiwanese are light years ahead of China in business and technology.
"I follow you there. The Taiwanese are light years ahead of China in business and technology."
And they got lots of world class semi conductor cleanrooms and design facilities, producing lead edge technology semi conductors amoung other things. Chicoms are still in catch up mode in this area.
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