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Ousted Aide Seeks Identity Of Web User (FR mentioned) (MD4BUSH-NCPAC)
WBAL on-line ^ | May 6, 2005 | WBAL

Posted on 05/06/2005 4:00:58 AM PDT by ZinGirl

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1 posted on 05/06/2005 4:00:59 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: ZinGirl

Bump


2 posted on 05/06/2005 4:04:01 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: ZinGirl; Jim Robinson

BTTT

I'd like to know too. ....


3 posted on 05/06/2005 4:07:44 AM PDT by baseballmom
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To: ZinGirl; conservative in nyc
But Steffen's lawyer is using both federal law and a previous court case to try to force Free Republic.com's hand. The federal law is called the electronic communications privacy act and does permit a Web site operator to reveal account information about a user. A lawyer familiar with the federal law told 11 News under its terms, Steffen is entitled to information about MD4BUSH

Well, now this might shed a little light in a dark corner... I wonder if anyone knows anything about the "electronic communications privacy act". Is there a lawyer in the house?
4 posted on 05/06/2005 4:08:29 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Jim Robinson
In his letter, Steffen's lawyer specifically seeks MD4BUSH's account information at Free Republic.com, which would include an e-mail address and server records that could reveal clues about the locations from which MD4BUSH logged in.

There we go....can you release the info now?

Please..

5 posted on 05/06/2005 4:10:58 AM PDT by Dog ( Premier news hound and proud member of FR's Pajama News Service...winner of several Buckeye awards.)
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To: Dog

Why? When folks sign on here it's in the hope that most of this information will remain confidential and not be handed over to the government. Being anonymous keeps the government from harrasing one just because of the views one takes.


6 posted on 05/06/2005 4:20:52 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: Junior
MD4Bush entrapped a Freeper.....and used it against an aide to the Gov of MD....to smear the Gov. I think IMHO...this info should be made public.....someone ran a sting to score political points.

Payback is now at hand.

7 posted on 05/06/2005 4:25:28 AM PDT by Dog ( Premier news hound and proud member of FR's Pajama News Service...winner of several Buckeye awards.)
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To: Junior

I didn't follow the story so I don't understand what the deal is, but I guess people don't want internet privacy anymore. Was there something in the story that wasn't true? Is this why they want the info so they can sue because someone lied?


8 posted on 05/06/2005 4:28:11 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Junior

>>When folks sign on here it's in the hope that most of this information will remain confidential and not be handed over to the government

i hope you've learned over the years that you are responsible for your virtual self. more than one freeper has had the secret service stop by for a chat when they chose to go over the line. (although i'd probably rather have a chat with them than a dressing down by JR.)


9 posted on 05/06/2005 4:33:22 AM PDT by Glenn (pardon the e.e.cummings look. a busted arm makes typing seem like work.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Please remember that you have a lot of capable friends here eager to help as needed.

Hope our bushwacked FReeper ends up nailin' someone's ass to the wall over all this !


10 posted on 05/06/2005 4:36:53 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Dog
MD4Bush entrapped a Freeper.....

How so? and used it against an aide to the Gov of MD....to smear the Gov.

Was the information untrue?

11 posted on 05/06/2005 4:38:00 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen
Background
12 posted on 05/06/2005 4:40:06 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Dog
It's hard to get the facts here.  MD4BUSH is (was?) an actual freeper with posts and an about page.

We've had a lot of trolls here-- possibly MD4BUSH.   IMHO we've been getting a lot of new 'protectionists' who've been panning Bush and saying how great Clinton was.   Same for all the new immigration bush-bashers.

The question is whether this is 'divide and conquer' or am I running low on tin-foil.

13 posted on 05/06/2005 4:40:24 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Junior
When folks sign on here it's in the hope that most of this information will remain confidential and not be handed over to the government.

This is why JimRob hasn't released the information on his own. owever, it seems clear that "MD4BUSH" misreprented him/herself (or themselves), and very likely broke their agreement with FR policies, so I have no poblem with Jim turing over the info if Steffen (or anyone else) gets a court order for it.

14 posted on 05/06/2005 4:42:12 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: Netizen
You don't post private freepmail's in the open which MD4BUSH did to Steffin....and then have a major American newspaper run a story based on the private freepmail you posted on the open forum.

Now in my world ...ruining a mans career to score a few political points for a hack politican....is not right.

Screw the rules.....JimRob should sic'em...

15 posted on 05/06/2005 4:45:28 AM PDT by Dog
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To: tomkat
Thanks for the link. From what I read, I guess I don't see the problem.

Was this Mayor's private life somehow 'protected' while other politicians aren't? Were the things said untrue? If it's a matter of who said what, wouldn't the content of the emails be enough to show who said what, without having to reveal anyone's identity?

The internet is notorious for BS and rumors, should all posters have to use their real names?

16 posted on 05/06/2005 4:49:14 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Dog
You don't post private freepmail's in the open which MD4BUSH did to Steffin....

Well, posting them is against FR rules and netiquette, but other than that, oh well.

As for ruining a career, was the info true or not?

17 posted on 05/06/2005 4:54:06 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Dog

I forgot to add that since they broke FR's rules about posting them, they should be banned or suspended, like others that have done the same thing.


18 posted on 05/06/2005 4:55:50 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen
My understanding of it is that MD4 was some kind of agent provocateur in here who, in collaboration w/a WaPo reporter, libeled our FReeper (Steffin) by misrepresenting the content of FReepmails between the two of them, having same published in the comPost, resulting in our guy's losing his job w/the MD governor's office.

That's merely my recollection of events however and it would behoove you to read the archived posts as I suffer from chronic Sometimers.

19 posted on 05/06/2005 4:57:05 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Netizen
Why are you so hung up on is it true or not.

I don't know if the politican in question was having an affair.

Steffin lost his job....because of what happened..

20 posted on 05/06/2005 4:58:37 AM PDT by Dog
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