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To: Caleb1411
Just wondering, why should the Catholic Church care about whether or not Spain legalizes gay marriage. The Catholic Church doesn't recognize civil marriage anyway. In the Catholic Church's eyes, if you ain't married according to Catholic rite, you ain't married.

So why should some clerk lose their job for acknowledging that , under Spanish law (but not Catholic law), two men be married.

84 posted on 05/06/2005 3:17:02 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Just wondering, why should the Catholic Church care about whether or not Spain legalizes gay marriage.

Because it's giving state approbation to an objectively immoral situation, and making it equal in the eyes of the state to a covenant ordained by God and nature.

The Catholic Church doesn't recognize civil marriage anyway. In the Catholic Church's eyes, if you ain't married according to Catholic rite, you ain't married.

Untrue in general. It's true that a Catholic who marries in a non-Catholic rite without a Church dispensation is contracting a marriage which is invalid in the eyes of the Church. Non-Catholics are not required to do so, however, and if they are baptized Christians, their marriages are considered to be just as sacramental and binding as a Catholic marriage. If they aren't Christians, their marriage is considered to be a "natural marriage", which is not indissoluble, but not invalid either.

89 posted on 05/06/2005 3:24:18 PM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
In the Catholic Church's eyes, if you ain't married according to Catholic rite, you ain't married.

Incorrect. I suggest you actually learn what the Catholic Church teaches prior to commenting on said teachings.

236 posted on 05/07/2005 9:47:36 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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