[Tamar1973]

The Vatican has had a sometimes tense relationship with the Jesuits, some of whose members in the past have questioned papal pronouncements on birth control, priestly celibacy and the ban on women priests.

I thought the Jesuits were the most fiercely loyal subjects (for lack of a better word) of the Pope. I also thought they had a great deal of autonomy. Now, both assumptions are in doubt.

[Petronski]

I thought the Jesuits were the most fiercely loyal subjects (for lack of a better word) of the Pope.

Maybe in the Middle Ages. LOL

Georgetown is a Jesuit university. 'Nough said.

[Arthur McGowan]

I thought the Jesuits were the most fiercely loyal subjects (for lack of a better word) of the Pope.

This would be true if all Jesuits were saints like their founder, Saint Ignatius of Loyola.

[Malesherbes]

The Jesuits did a 180. They are now essentially an arm of the secular left. The Catholic Church will become a more attractive destination for searching youth as it shows that, like Benedict, it says what it means and means what it says.

[ninenot]

At last count we could identify 12 US Jesuits who were actually Catholic.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

"I also thought they had a great deal of autonomy. Now, both assumptions are in doubt."

Sorry on a couple of levels, friend. It does appear you've been out of the loop. Opus Dei has claimed the glory that was once the Jesuits. BUT, it's a good thing the Jesuit "autonomy" has been "more rigorously defined"!