[Dane]

In any case, neither side can look into the future far enough to imagine a U.S. that has been ruined. Both have evolved into political parties that believe that they are not bound by the history of human societal evolution: They each believe their way will be the first in the histoyr of man to triumph

Huh I guess the same can be said of the Founding Fathers, then. Weren't they also arrogant ones who thought they could triumph?

Basically you are a fatalist, and so are most on the anti-immigrant, anti-business column.

[Tulane]

To clairfy, I think most of us are not anti-immigrant, per se. It just drives us crazy that the government will do nothing to stop the illegal flow of people coming into this country...just legalize it or enforce the laws.

The is no question that the system now is broken and out of control. Yes, wages being driven through the floor is not necessarily a bad thing if the price of goods and services comes down as well. But the current system is completely out of control, and that is unacceptable to many.