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Parents' plea to Michael Schiavo: 'Tell us where Terri's ashes are
Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-8-2005 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 05/07/2005 11:22:02 PM PDT by kingattax

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To: kingattax
So, Terry Schiavo was ordered by the court to die by starvation and dehydration. But, Michael Schiavo can blithely ignore a court order.

Why isn't the dear grieving widower hauled into court for contempt???

Anyone know what happened to the autopsy report?

21 posted on 05/08/2005 7:54:02 AM PDT by harpo11
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To: Atomic Vomit
You don't like being reminded of how you sneered and mocked...I don't know of anyone who ever sneered and mocked the situation.
22 posted on 05/08/2005 7:59:36 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: kingattax
Bobby Jr said that the family was only made aware in 2002 of a bone scan taken a year after the incident. This showed that she had broken ribs, vertebrae, femur and knees.

Complete horsecrap. Scans prove nothing. Autopsy is due out shortly it would be best to wait for the results.

23 posted on 05/08/2005 8:06:36 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: kingattax

Mikey continues with his power trip, creepy old Felos can't be reached for comment, and judge greer is off getting an award.
Laugh, you fools, one day many years in the future you will face judgment in the next world and then we'll see what you have to say for yourselves.
And hopefully, at that time, the Schindler family will be reunited around the throne in Heaven.


24 posted on 05/08/2005 8:19:44 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: blueriver

Terri?


25 posted on 05/08/2005 8:39:32 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: harpo11
"Anyone know what happened to the autopsy report?"

Not that you're going to believe it. Might just as well start discrediting it now.

(Hint: You can say you heard that the autopsy report will show _____. Then make up something.)

26 posted on 05/08/2005 8:42:53 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

That's right. Just keep on spinning and denying and making excuses not just for the rogue judiciary in FL, but for yourself as well. I just wish my denial wiped out my conscience. Life would be easier.


27 posted on 05/08/2005 1:39:36 PM PDT by penowa
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To: penowa

Learn to read.


28 posted on 05/08/2005 1:44:27 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
"Learn to read."

What should I learn to read? That he was in an almost, or sort of like, or nearly PVS all those years according to his MD's diagnosis after he awoke? (Before he started talking he was definitely PVS just like Terri.) Thank you for your brilliant suggestion and let me make a recommendation that you learn to think while you read. It could open your mind to a whole new world. Never mind, scratch the last sentence.

29 posted on 05/08/2005 3:16:52 PM PDT by penowa
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Your post #27 babbled something about the Florida judiciary when I was discussing this New York case. What did the Florida judiciary have to do with this guy in New York?

N-E-W Y-O-R-K spells New York, not Florida. That's what you should learn to read.

"Before he started talking he was definitely PVS just like Terri."

WHAT?

He was not in a PVS and was even able to eat and drink.

30 posted on 05/08/2005 4:21:13 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: I still care

bttt


31 posted on 05/08/2005 4:29:46 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: robertpaulsen

I take back what I said about learning to think about what you're reading. You need a remedial class in READING if we have both read the same materials on the fireman in N.Y. His doctor decided AFTER he woke up and started talking that he had only been "near" PVS; prior to that, for 10 yrs., he was diagnosed as being in PVS, which was also what court appointed MD's said was Terri's diagnosis. Also, he has had a feeding tube for 10 years. If this is not clear enough, don't bother me any more and I promise I will just ignore all of your future posts regardless of topic.


32 posted on 05/08/2005 5:00:36 PM PDT by penowa
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"prior to that, for 10 yrs., he was diagnosed as being in PVS

Find one, just one, article where it says he was diagnosed by a doctor as PVS for 10 years. And if you cannot, then stop comparing him to Terri.

"Joseph Fins, a professor at the Weill Cornell Medical Centre in New York, said that Mr Herbert appeared to have been in a “minimally conscious state”, rather than a “persistent vegetative state”."
-- timesonline.co.uk

"Also, he has had a feeding tube for 10 years."

Wrong again, Bucko. From the same source:

"When he regained consciousness, his speech was slurred, he was unable to eat without help and he was nearly blind. He could no longer remember how old he was or what his job had been and was unable to recognise family members."

33 posted on 05/08/2005 6:15:57 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
"Not that you're going to believe it."

Why aren't we a bit surly! Why whatever makes you think that?

34 posted on 05/08/2005 6:18:55 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: harpo11

Tell me I'm wrong.


35 posted on 05/08/2005 6:28:17 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: kingattax
the family claimed on American television that he was keeping her remains from them.

And these folks want remains why?

36 posted on 05/08/2005 6:30:55 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: robertpaulsen
How can I tell you that you are wrong since we haven't seen the report to judge whether your original premise is correct?
37 posted on 05/08/2005 7:22:38 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: robertpaulsen
Reuters 5/5/05: Dr. Jamil Ahmed, a physician at Erie County Medical Center, credited Herbert's family's unswerving belief that he would recover. Ahmed said Herbert had been "almost in a persistent vegitative state" when he began treating him 2 1/2 yrs. ago.

CNN.com 5/5/05 HEALTH: "Miracle" firefighter received experimental drug treatment: In the past several years, his condition had sunk into a near persistent vegetative state, Ahmed said. When asked what he anticipates in Herbert's future, Ahmed said he expects Herbert to speak more, to walk, and TO EAT.

Ahmed is his attending physician who gave him the drug combination. I doubt that Joseph Fins has ever actually seen Mr. Herbert with his own eyes. Many articles refer to Herbert as sitting all day in his wheelchair in front of a TV that he is unable to see due to his blindness, drooling all over himself. (Doesn't seem like he could swallow food if he can't swallow saliva.) Perhaps what Fins is referring to is a feeding tube when he says "unable to eat without help."

I think it is apparent we have NOT read the same articles. Fins was never mentioned in any articles I read and most had a Buffalo byline. Also watched the press conference with his family, the MD, etc. If you need more info, you spend your time "googling" it.

38 posted on 05/08/2005 8:05:09 PM PDT by penowa
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To: penowa
"Near" and "almost" don't cut it.

And Ahmed was referring to "eating unassisted". Mr. Herbert did not have a feeding tube.

39 posted on 05/08/2005 8:26:32 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: kingattax

How evil of Michael to deny Terri's parents access to her remains. I heard someone say, "well, maybe he hasn't had the memorial service yet?" One would have to wonder why he has not had the memorial service yet?

It is cruel to deny the parents access to their daughters remains.


40 posted on 05/09/2005 8:20:52 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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