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Skipped gym class costs student diploma
Times Leader/AP Wire ^ | 5/8/2005

Posted on 05/08/2005 6:47:15 PM PDT by Born Conservative

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To: kjam22
You do what you're suppose to do to "make the grade".

Spoken like a good postal employee....

21 posted on 05/08/2005 7:00:10 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: freebilly

LOL... Don't work for the post office. But I am pretty successful. Is that a problem?


22 posted on 05/08/2005 7:01:09 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: Born Conservative

Well, if she gets to college (and hopefully succeeds there), she could tell her high school where to shove their requirements.


23 posted on 05/08/2005 7:01:15 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: kjam22
But you're right now and then they actually start a legit company. And often they go bankrupt.

Better to attempt and fail than to be a dog begging for scraps at master's table....

24 posted on 05/08/2005 7:01:57 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: sharktrager
I would wager she didn't take it because she was hoping the extra honors class, and the related grade bonus, would help her GPA.

Yep. I had to make the same calculation. It didn't occur to me that I could try to play chicken with the administration.

25 posted on 05/08/2005 7:02:10 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "Very well put, AD. As usual." -- Howlin; "ROFL!" -- Dan from Michigan)
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To: Born Conservative
This woman is so unAmerican! Doesn't she realize that athletics is what's vital, not AP Science!? How many people can name a single Nobel winner from last year? Now how many sports figures are recognizable?

Intellectualism is for those Euroweenies! We're America, and proud to be anti-intellectual!

</sarc>...but too true

26 posted on 05/08/2005 7:02:20 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: kjam22

"She's in for a surprise someday when she tells her boss... "why would I do that project? It just isn't on my priority list". The simple answer is you take what you're suppose to so you get the degree. But I'm sure she knows better than everybody else."

I doubt this would ever happen. She clearly knows what she needs to do to succeed.


27 posted on 05/08/2005 7:02:20 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

In many high schools, including the one from which I graduated, AP classes also had the same extra weight on the GPA that an "honors" course did. While an "A" in most classes was a 4.0, an "A" in an AP or honors class was a 5.0.


28 posted on 05/08/2005 7:02:25 PM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: Gabz; xsmommy; Texan5; Dutchgirl; secret garden; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Public schools ping..........RME........


29 posted on 05/08/2005 7:03:09 PM PDT by tioga
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To: freebilly

Better to be the masters #1 in charge than to start your own and fail. There is no glory in failing at business. You've been successful.. and that's great. But that doesn't mean this gal will be.


30 posted on 05/08/2005 7:03:11 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: Kirkwood

Many schools give bonus points towards GPA. At my school it was one full point on the 4.0 scale. And other cases have had students become Valedictorian solely because a waiver kept them from being forced to take PE classes.


31 posted on 05/08/2005 7:03:24 PM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Born Conservative
She has her eye on her goal and she does not need a high school diploma.

In high school, one student who was one year behind me kept applying for early admission to college and got accepted in my Pre-Med year class. He then started applying early to Med School and again got accepted one year early.

The only diploma he ever got in his life was his M.D. (That one, you actually need.)

This week, my wife was talking to the local public high school about some courses our daughter might take as electives. When they mentioned "graduation requirements", my wife told them that story and what I thought about diplomas and the subject was dropped.

32 posted on 05/08/2005 7:03:51 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Kirkwood
Taking an AP course in HS means you don't have to take the equivalent course in college. Nothing to do with GPA.

Not entirely true. Yes, it gives college credit, but it also is generally higly rated in the calculations for class rank. An A in AP Calculus is worth a lot more than an A in gym class. Thus, there are those who used tricks like this to up their class rank percentage.

33 posted on 05/08/2005 7:03:52 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: Hank Rearden
The best part is, nobody gives a rats arse about a high school diploma anymore. Top universities around the country accept home-schoolers at a much higher rate than people with the useless high-skrewel diploma.
34 posted on 05/08/2005 7:03:52 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: Kirkwood

Yep... but she couldn't figure out how to get a highschool diploma on time.


35 posted on 05/08/2005 7:03:53 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: Born Conservative

Damn straight the kid should have to take gym---why the hell would a real educator want the kid to take an AP class.

I guarantee one other thing, these educators whine about the lack of parental involvement, but when this mom showed up they treated her like sh*t and behind closed doors bitched endlessly about that damn mother trying to tell the great educators what was best.

One of mine took an AP class from a teacher who didn't know anything about the class. The principal and school board office could have given a damn. When I spoke up at a public school board meeting, fully half of the board members were asleep or picking their noses.

Lesson learned, educators care about getting by each day without controversy and drawing another day closer to retirement.

Home schooling is the only way to go---you'll have a teacher who at least gives a damn.


36 posted on 05/08/2005 7:04:32 PM PDT by Founding Father (A proud "vigilante." My money goes to support Minutemen, not Republicans.)
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To: kjam22

"But all of life is about dumb rules drawn up by somebody else. Learning that at 17 is better than learning it at 45. Her mom didn't do her any favors. You do what you're suppose to do to "make the grade". Learning that is more valuable than AP Biology."

Wow. Your life must suck.


37 posted on 05/08/2005 7:04:57 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

As a matter of fact I've been incredibly blessed. But the fact is that our society is full of rules. Just get in your car and drive down the road. Go to Walmart and try to buy something. Life is about rules and playing the system. She just failed at that this time around. Maybe she'll get better at it. You think?


38 posted on 05/08/2005 7:06:19 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: Kirkwood
"Nothing to do with GPA."

Yes it does, In most schools an A in an AP class counts as a 5, B a 4, and so on.
39 posted on 05/08/2005 7:06:41 PM PDT by AVNevis (www.cahsconservative.blogspot.com Great Political Discussion from the eyes of a High School Student)
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To: kjam22
There is no glory in failing at business

Most successful business people I know failed more than once before suceeding.

in any event, I commend this student for doing what she needed to do, to advance her life, over the inane requirements of this HS.

40 posted on 05/08/2005 7:09:37 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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