Posted on 05/08/2005 9:28:41 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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And the response will be all-out economic/geopolitical offensive against China, orchestrated by U.S. and Japan. Teamed up with many of EU countries(but probably not France,) they will hit hard on trade issues, and currency on the economic front. They will aggressively tackle human right issues, which will give more ammunition to put more punitive economic measures.
Japan's military will turn aggressive, and hint now and then how they could become a nuclear power with hundreds of nuclear warheads in 90 days. They may even float the idea fo H-bomb. N. Korean nuke test will break the Japanese psychological taboo on possessing nukes, because they could get nuked again, this time, by N. Korea.
Japan will clash more with China about outlying islands in E. China sea, and make more 'provocative' overures to Taiwan.
It is N. Korea who will pop the cork, but it is China who should suffer its consequence first for all sabotages it has pulled so far, in order to crush Kim Jong-il for good.
Ping!
Bump!
"'Arms Reduction and Peace Institute', a think tank under N. Korean Foreign Ministry"
What an ironic name.
The whole idea of a North Korean think tank boggles the mind.
In America, think tanks generate new ideas that the government might use, and criticise the government to a greater or lesser degree. In North Korea, they disseminate the government's propoganda. Less think, more tank.
Anyone in North Korea competent to be a scholar in a real think tank is probably either dead or in the gulag.
Open source MI Ping
We cannot rule it out.
OH S*****
If Chia Pet Kim does this his country going be roaney LOL!
I think Japan should do a little nuclear testing of its own, in N Korea
Can you imaging just how many fissile materials they can extract from all that stuff IF they really want to?
Can you say approx enough to produce 100+ (>300 kilotons) bombs from the get go!
The question is whether the U.S. & U.N. have the "chochkies" to actually do what must be done, and whether nations like China, Russia and S. Korea will actually adhere to U.N. sanctions..
As far as U.S. sanctions are concerned, we are on our own.. It is very doubtful that any nation would back us up on sanctions initiated solely by the U.S...
One exception is possibly Japan, but even they have certain economic and trade ties that might influence their decision to sanction..
N. Korea is probably going to be another "Iraq scenario", with the U.S. the only nation unwilling to play N. Korea's game... ( depending on whether Dems win in '08.. In which case, all bets are off.. )
While N. Korea does not have the oil leverage of Iraq, it has a viable drug trade and the "nuclear blackmail" option..
Their ambivilant stance and threats of nuclear retaliation for any move it considers an "act of war" makes them very dangerous.
My personal preference..
As soon as an actual nuclear test takes place, start bombing..
Take out the artillery and missile bases near the border.. anything that can reach S. Korea..
Then take out the capital and all known military operations centers..
But then, I tend to be the type that prefers direct action to a threat and damn the consequences..
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't..
I often wonder if Kim realizes that if he goes too far we can and will make his country look like the bottom of a Shake 'n Bake bag
"My personal preference..
As soon as an actual nuclear test takes place, start bombing..
Take out the artillery and missile bases near the border.. anything that can reach S. Korea..
Then take out the capital and all known military operations centers..
But then, I tend to be the type that prefers direct action to a threat and damn the consequences..
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.."
My fantasy...er...preference too. Never happen, sadly.
Why the U.S. is even concerned about world opinion is a total mystery to me. Nobody loves us, but that's OK with me. It's all about maturity. Here we are, a relatively young country, and the Old World countries don't have the maturity to get along with us and truly benefit from it, but rather wallow around in their own vomit whining jealously, no matter what this country does. Contrary just to be contrary, just like a spoiled teenager.
North Korea is the epitome of an Orwellian dystopia.
Just as 1984 had the 'Ministry of Truth' which produced nothing but lies, we have the North Korean Arms Reduction and Peace Institute which supports arms increases and war.
Since I was an Arabic linguist, I don't know much of the SEA. N. Korea better be careful though. The Chinese, Japanese, and others in the region could resolve the issue themselves.
6 nukes vs a billion Chinese is not good odds.
Re: #5
Ha-ha-ha. Outstanding comment. The same thing occurred to me, with puzzlement, when I saw a Japanese citizen talking about a "North Korean thinktank".
Re: #1
I agree -- it is an unusual reference.... Could be just a bluff to gain more political mileage, as the US has declared this a red line, and the US has also recently discussed the likelihood of bilateral discussion at the six-way talks. On the other hand, particularly if NK is frustrated, I could see them enacting a "fait accompli".
A nuke test by the Norks though, can by no rational means be tolerated -- the Kim family and strap hangers are way too nutty. There is less risk in a preemptive strike than in thinking we can negotiate with a "nation" which has killed one-tenth of its population in the last ten years, a "nation" which took out a South Korean passenger airline over jealously for the South getting the 88 Seoul Olympics.
Please do keep watch of the timing of NK escalations with Iranian :)
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