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To: PatrickHenry
The fossil record alone, even without corroboration from DNA evidence (where available) is a staggering refutation of ID.

I keep hearing this, but I can't buy it. It's no trouble at all to simply say "the designer made it that way for reasons we don't understand."

That's the heart of the problem. It's irrefutable. There is absolutely no hypothetical observation in the universe that would count as actual evidence against ID, and as such there's no possible way to determine whether or not the universe actually is consistent with an ID worldview. It is a fundamentally worthless explanation.
190 posted on 05/10/2005 9:08:35 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
I keep hearing this [the fossil record refutes ID], but I can't buy it. It's no trouble at all to simply say "the designer made it that way for reasons we don't understand."

I should have begun that post by saying: "To the rational mind, one which does not believe that the fossil record is a gigantic hoax, perpetrated by a long-running conspiracy of thousands of scientists over several generations, or that it exists but was fabricated by the gods to perplex us and test our faith ..."

217 posted on 05/10/2005 9:22:24 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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