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Condemning Hitler and Stalin on VE Day
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | May 10, 2005 | Michael Radu

Posted on 05/10/2005 8:59:01 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

On May 9, 2005, a grand ceremony in Moscow commemorated the victory over Nazi Germany sixty years ago. The victims of Soviet ‘liberation,’ however, do not join in the commemoration with the same celebratory sentiments. The questions raised publicly and officially for the first time since the collapse of the Soviet Union concern the central one: victory for whom? According to both Vladimir Putin and what passes for his opposition, May 9, 1945, was a historic victory—their victory—leading to the liberation of half of Europe.

Their main argument is that the USSR paid by far the highest cost in human life—traditionally estimated at some 20 million—during the war. However, it is far from clear why Stalin’s criminal incompetence and total contempt for human life, which unnecessarily magnified the Russian cost in casualties, should now become a justification for rewriting the history of the war.

The Russians argue that by contributing to the defeat of Nazism, Moscow brought “liberation” to Eastern and Central Europe. But the facts are quite different. Poland, whose partitioning in 1939 by Hitler and Stalin marked the beginning of the war, lost the eastern half of her territory and became a Soviet subject; similarly, Romania, at the end of the war an ally of Moscow, lost a fourth of her land as well as her independence. But the worst was the fate of the Baltic states. For the second time in four years, they lost everything: their statehood; some 20% of their people (sent to Siberia); and in the cases of Latvia and Estonia, the near loss of their very ethnic existence through forced Russification.

The Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe in the wake of the “Great Patriotic War” also brought about one of the largest campaigns of ethnic cleansing ever: the deportation of some 3 million Germans in then Czechoslovakia and Poland, most of whom had lived there for the better part of a millennium, to what became the Soviet-controlled part of the truncated Germany. The Red Army’s soldiers—self-proclaimed liberators—unleashed a wave of raping, stealing, and brutality on the peoples of Eastern and Central Europe. Even Allied soldiers, like those of Romania, were randomly captured and sent to the Gulag.

Russia has consistently refused to repudiate the 1939 non-aggression pact with Germany, wherein the two partitioned Eastern Europe. Sergei Yastrzhembsky, Russia's representative in talks with the EU, is a prime example of Russia’s continued denial of the realities of 1945, as his comments about the Baltic States made on May 5 demonstrate: "One cannot use the term ‘occupation’ to describe these historical events. The troop deployment took place on an agreed basis and with the clearly expressed agreement of the existing authorities in the Baltic republics. There was no occupation of foreign territory seized by military means." The Balts would be surprised indeed to find that “their” nonexistent authorities in 1945 “agreed” to Soviet annexation. Yastrzhembsky added that he would advise those seeking constructive relations with Russia not to project “phobias and historical prejudices” onto those relations. Orwell would feel vindicated.

When, in December 2004, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe held hearings on the crimes of communism, a Russian representative held that “communism was not responsible for the deviations of Stalinism, which betrayed the beautiful ideals of Lenin.”[1][1] That was five months ago!

Many Russians have never fully understood how their role in 1945 was seen quite differently in Eastern Europe than at home, and that for many East Europeans, the Soviet “liberation” – achieved through the wave of Soviet rapes, lootings and deportations, and subsequent domination-- were by no means welcome, to say the least. Russians are often still shocked at the “ingratitude” of their present western neighbors. In that sense, if few others, Putin is indeed representative of his people’s sentiments. Even today Moscow tries hard to bully its neighbors into accepting its version of World War II history. Combine that with his recent claim that the end of the USSR was a “geopolitical catastrophe” and all of the above become much easier to explain.

The presidents of Lithuania and Estonia have pointedly refused to participate in the Moscow celebrations. Latvia’s President, Vaira Vike-Frebeirga, did show up but only to remind the participants of the other, dark side of 1945. President Alexander Kwasniewski of Poland will do the same. Even Vladimir Voronin, Moldova’s self-proclaimed communist president, will be absent after being accused by Moscow of “fascism” for paying respect to the graves of both Soviet and Romanian soldiers fallen in World War II. The term “fascist” for all those who dare to criticize Stalin’s 1945 actions--and occasionally for those who criticize Russia today – remains a rhetorical tool in the Russian media and official language, just as before Putin’s “catastrophe”; it was applied to communist Voronin, East European nationalists and the Baltic democrats alike.

Why is what may appear as quibbles over the past (to some) relevant today? First of all, because today’s Russia sees itself and behaves like Stalin’s successor, albeit, fortunately, without his means. Moscow plays a decisive role in maintaining secessionist (and truly Stalinist) enclaves in Moldova and Georgia, as well as in Azerbaijan. Moscow keeps Alexander Lukashenka’s totalitarian regime in power in Belarus and continuously bullies the Baltic states--after interfering in the democratic process in Georgia and Ukraine.

From the perspective of Russia’s neighbors and victims of the Soviet pseudo-liberation of 1945, Moscow remains a constant threat. The post-1991 East and Central European rush to join NATO, as an act of protection against Russian imperialist reflexes, and the prevailing pro-American sentiments in the region, serve as evidence. Such actions and sentiments stand in sharp contrast to the anti-American mood of Western Europe, an area which has the luxury of distance from Russia and the historic benefit of having been truly liberated—by Americans—in 1945. This contrast is now being played out within the newly expanded EU, as recent debates in the European Parliament in Strasbourg have demonstrated.

When asked to vote on a resolution condemning the infamous Yalta Agreements of 1945, signed by Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin, which gave the latter what amounted to a free hand over half of Europe, West European leftists were true to form. Belgian Socialist Véronique de Keyser repeated the Russian argument—“One should not insult the memory of some 20 million Russians who perished as liberators”—while her German colleague, Martin Schulz, reminded everyone that “the Red Army helped defeat Nazism and put an end to the Holocaust”--as if the latter was Stalin’s goal or that it could have excused what happened during and after the Soviet “liberation.”

On the other hand, Estonian socialist Toomas Ilves and the Polish Marek Siwiec pointed out that the end of the war was a disaster for their peoples, and that “one must commemorate at the same time the victims of Nazism and communism.” An embarrassed president of the European Parliament, Spanish socialist Josep Borrell, whose idea of commemoration included a violin concerto, was accused by Polish MPs of lack of respect for their country – an opinion shared by the Balts.[2][2] Ultimately, the East Europeans’ version failed at Strassbourg. Though Western Europeans’ old reflexes of conciliating Moscow may continue unabated, the good news is that the new members do not share them.

Compare that spectacle with President Bush’s public position, expressed in a letter to President Vike-Freiberga: “In western Europe, the end of World War II meant liberation. In central and eastern Europe, the war also marked the Soviet occupation and annexation of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and the imposition of communism.” That brought the following reaction from Russian defense Minister Sergey Ivanov:

“That war was won at the cost of countless deaths and the impact on demographics and our living standards is still perceptible. And when some now argue over whether we did or did not occupy other countries, I feel like asking them: 'And what would have become of you if we hadn't broken the back of fascism—would you still exist as a people?'[3][3]

Answer to Ivanov: we will never know (although the German occupation in the Baltics was, by Nazi standards, fairly benign), but we do know that under Soviet rule, the Balts were almost eradicated as peoples, on purpose.

One has to note that the newly strengthened realism in Washington on matters related to Moscow’s behavior has much to do with the new Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, a former academic who specialized in Russian affairs. Accordingly, and encouragingly, the administration has had sharp reaction to Russian protests to President Bush’s visit to Latvia and Georgia, two of Moscow’s historic victims. Even if Putin pretends not to know and the Western Europeans apparently do not know, Russia is no more, and must not be allowed to become again what it was in 1945: the slave master of its neighbors. The more often Washington (and Riga or Warsaw) remind it of these facts, the safer everyone in Europe will be.

Notes:

[1] Cf. Sylvaine Pasquier, « Pays Baltes-Russie. A chacun sa mémoire, » L'Express, May 2, 2005

[2] Rafaële Rivais, « 8 mai 1945 : la ‘résolution Yalta’ oppose les eurodéputés de l'Est et de l'Ouest, » Le Monde, May 5, 2005.

[3] Andrew Osborn, “Bush prepares for Moscow visit with attack on Soviet era,” The Independent, May 5, 2005.


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1 posted on 05/10/2005 8:59:01 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Come on. come on, we gotta leave Russia a little something
"to hang on to".


2 posted on 05/10/2005 9:02:43 AM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: Tailgunner Joe
There is still a strong Stalinist undercurrent in Russia:

For Russians, a bittersweet triumph

VOLGOGRAD, RUSSIA - The Soviet victory over Nazi Germany has become one of the most potent legends of Russian history. And 60 years on, the "Great Patriotic War," as Russians call it, still stirs feelings of national sacrifice and triumph.

But mention the name of wartime Soviet leader Josef Stalin to veterans in this town - site of the crucial fight-or-die battle for Stalingrad - and argument erupts, exposing nerves still raw.

"It was a hard war, and the beginning was not the luckiest for us - a lot of materiel was lost and damaged," says Nikolai Gorbyenko, a white-haired former artillery officer, describing how Soviet forces were taken by surprise - a result of Stalin's refusal to believe intelligence reports that German divisions were massing on the border in June 1941. "For the leadership and Comrade Stalin, that was the first mistake," says Gorbyenko, sparking a discernible agitation among some veterans nearby. "We had to retreat."

Within days, the Red Army - its officer corps depleted by political purges in which more than 36,000 were executed - had 300,000 of its soldiers surrounded, and 2,500 tanks captured, on the central front alone, according to historian Antony Beevor, in his book "Stalingrad."

But the bite of winter and overextended German supply lines allowed the Soviets to stop the Nazi advance at the edge of Moscow. The next winter at Stalingrad - where the Soviets lost more than 1 million soldiers - the war turned.

"They mentioned that Stalin made some mistakes and was bad, but Stalin knew that sooner or later we would be at war with the Germans," says Vladimir Panyenko, his chest covered with medals - including the pale green-yellow ribbon with a thin red stripe, awarded for "Defense of Stalingrad."

That defense included Stalin's Order No. 227, signed just weeks before the Stalingrad battle and known as "Not One Step Backwards." Those who would surrender were a "traitor to the motherland." "Panic-mongers and cowards must be destroyed on the spot," the order read. "The retreat mentality must be decisively eliminated."

In the end, 13,500 Red Army soldiers were executed by their own side, a "barely believable ruthlessness of the Soviet system," writes Mr. Beevor, which helps explain why more than 50,000 Soviet citizens - many of them volunteers - actually fought against their own countrymen in the city.

That legacy is not mentioned on tours of the Stalingrad battle museum - where heroic deeds and images aim to create patriotic hearts.

"I'm dying, but I don't give in," one soldier scrawled on a wall during the siege of the Brest-Litovsk fortress a month after the Nazi invasion began. "Farewell, Motherland."

Nor are Stalin's difficulties mentioned in the shadow of the towering memorial statue to the epic battle - a woman holding aloft a sword, called "Motherland Is Calling."

But memories are selective, and Stalin seems to be making a comeback. Prospects are growing that Volgograd could soon be renamed "Stalingrad." Last July, President Vladimir Putin ordered that the name be changed from "Volgograd" on the war memorial at the Kremlin wall in Moscow.

In Volgograd, memorial director Valentina Klyushina is on a committee to change the name but admits the move is controversial. "A person who doesn't remember the past has no future," she says. "There was some repression - even in my family - but I don't think Stalin was to blame."

Indeed, Ms. Klyushina's mother was given a 10-year prison term, because the negligible amount of 167 rubles could not be accounted for where she worked, as chief of a bakery.

"Patriotism is growing now, though we lost 10 years because of [Mikhail Gorbachev's] perestroika," says Klyushina. Does she credit Stalin with winning the war? Klyushina answers philosophically: "The victory over the Germans was won by the people of the Soviet Union."
3 posted on 05/10/2005 9:04:37 AM PDT by kozachka
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To: kozachka

The man with the gun shoots. When that man is dead, the other man will take the gun and shoot.


4 posted on 05/10/2005 9:28:04 AM PDT by boofus
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"The Russians argue that by contributing to the defeat of Nazism, Moscow brought “liberation” to Eastern and Central Europe"


We did not make common cause with Stalin so he could make territorial gains after the defeat of Hitler. But, that is was Stalin did. He imposed the Soviet system on the people who were liberated. At Potsdam, he negotiated from where he stood and did not give ground or evacuate the places where Soviet soldiers fought. After the fighting, the allies packed up and went home. Stalins stayed.
5 posted on 05/10/2005 9:46:14 AM PDT by SMARTY (Lucius Septimus Severus to his sons: "Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else")
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To: kozachka
There is still a strong Stalinist undercurrent in Russia:

But memories are selective, and Stalin seems to be making a comeback. Prospects are growing that Volgograd could soon be renamed "Stalingrad." Last July, President Vladimir Putin ordered that the name be changed from "Volgograd" on the war memorial at the Kremlin wall in Moscow.

Firstly, I noticed you joined on May 4, 2005.
Secondly, it is a bald-faced lie to say Stalin is making a comeback in Russia.

I am really fed up with the Russianphobes. Over and over they keep saying Russia wants to be back under Stalin. Never mind that the majority of people who have been there have never heard anyone praise Stalin. There have been so many lies told by these people I wrote our friends in Volgograd, and asked them about the statue of Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin. The last I heard the monument was not going to be placed due to a lack of funds. I promised to print her letter in full when received.

Dear Gary and Nadia,

Thank you for your kind wishes on Easter Holiday. We had a nice holiday. We did not bake kulich (we bought them in the store) but we cooked a lot of tasty food for the holiday. We went to the church early in the morning. There was a man from America in Voljsky and he also went to the church with us as he had never been to Orthodox church before.

We are happy to hear that Nadia will come to Voljsky next month. Will she stay for a long time here?

Gary, to tell you the truth we have not heard about the statue of Stalin in Volgograd. I will check this information on our local server. There are some people who think that Stalin played an important role in the World War II but I did not hear that people love him. There are many movies about the War now on TV and all of them show Stalin as a very rude leader, as a tyrant. I assume communists still idolize him. Perhaps they want a monument to be erected in the city.

Kindest regards, Alla


Today I received a second e-mail from our friends in Volgograd regarding the supposed monument to Stalin. I promised to print her reponses to you. I hope this opens everyones' eye to the lies that are being told.

Gary,

Yesterday I checked the information about Stalin monument in the Internet. I could not find much information on our local server (Volgograd.ru) but I read one post there. It says that the monument was built by a famous sculptor Tsereteli. First he wanted his statue to be erected in the Crimea (Ukraine) but people were against it especially Tatars (there are a lot of them there and the Ukrainian government listens to their opinion). Then Tsereteli wanted to give the statue to Moscow as a gift but Moscow thanked him for the gift and said no. Now the sculptor is talking to Volgograd government people (mostly to communists) and wants the statue to be erected in Volgograd. It is funny that the person who is responsible for all statues and monuments in the city (the one who decides if the monument will be placed in the city or not) has no idea about the statue of Stalin in Volgograd as he said in the interview to some local newspaper. Communists try to solve this question by themselves.

Kindest regards,

Alla

6 posted on 05/10/2005 10:06:21 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Evidence that Stalin was a complete, utter psychopath:

Stalin trusted no one. He didn't trust his wife, his children, the Party members who had served with him loyally for years, nor the members of the Red Army who had risked their lives for him. He didn't trust the working class, the peasants or the intelligensia. He didn't trust anyone in fact except one person.

Adolf Hitler.

Regards, Ivan


7 posted on 05/10/2005 10:08:38 AM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
There was an interesting profile of Marshal Zhukov on the "History Channel" the other day. One of the more unforgettable moments was when a former Red Army enlisted soldier said that while he had respect for officers who led from the front at the tactical level, he and his comrades hated all the generals, on the grounds that they treated their men like so many sacrificial pawns to be thrown at the enemy. To me, that says it all about Stalin, Zhukov and the whole lot of them.
8 posted on 05/10/2005 12:01:29 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: GarySpFc

Your reply interested me to the extent that I found and posted the following.

Dictator Stalin stirs nostalgia as Russians remember war
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400490/posts

And here's another article--one that contains information on the recent whereabouts of the statue of Stalin. The plan is to transport it to Volgograd (formerly known as Stalingrad).

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From evil tyrant to wartime saviour, Stalin's political makeover divides Russia

From Jeremy Page in Moscow
Times Online
May 06, 2005
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1599804,00.html

IN A secluded courtyard behind a Moscow art gallery, the twice-lifesize bronze figure of Josef Stalin stares into the distance with an icy, arrogant glare. Beside him sit Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, looking his way, as if hanging on his words.

Russia has not seen such a flattering portrayal of the “iron leader” since 1956, when Nikita Khrushchev denounced Stalin.

But as the country prepares for the 60th anniversary of Hitler’s defeat on Monday, this monument to the Yalta conference in 1945 is the most tangible sign of a growing movement to rehabilitate Stalin.

“History and facts cannot be changed — these people saved us from the fascists,” Zurab Tsereteli, the president of the Russian Academy of Arts, who sculpted the 4m-high statue, said. “Some people like Stalin, some people don’t. I simply depicted historical facts.” Mr Tsereteli says that local authorities in Yalta — now in Ukraine — commissioned the work and wanted to unveil it on Monday. But that plan was abandoned as debate rages over Stalin’s role in history and relevance to modern Russia.

A Moscow politician then sparked a furore by suggesting that the statue be erected in the Russian capital. Finally, the Mayor of Volgograd, formerly known as Stalingrad, agreed to put it up for May 9, but that plan has also been postponed. The statue remains in limbo behind Mr Tsereteli’s gallery, a monument more to Russians’ ambiguous feelings towards Stalin than to his wartime leadership.

For many Communists, veterans and nationalists, he is still the heroic author of the Soviet Union’s rapid industrialisation and victory over Hitler. “We must defend the truth and rehabilitate the great name of Stalin,” Gennady Zyuganov, the Communist Party leader, said recently. He also called for Volgograd to be renamed Stalingrad.

The town of Mirny in Siberia is marking May 9 by erecting a bust of Stalin because “veterans and young people asked for it”, a local official said. Legislators in the city of Oryol, where 157 political prisoners were executed on Stalin’s orders, recently appealed to the Kremlin to erect monuments and name streets in his honour.

In a recent poll by the All-Russian Public Opinion Research Centre, 20 per cent of respondents described Stalin’s role in Russian history as “very positive” and 30 per cent as “somewhat positive”. Yet for political liberals, human rights groups and descendants of his victims, Stalin ranks alongside Hitler as one of history’ s worst mass murderers. They — and most historians — say that ten to twenty million people died in Stalin’s purges, famines, deportations and gulags.

The Soviet Union almost lost the war because of his purges of Red Army officers, and Russia is still suffering the fallout of his policies, such as deporting the Chechens to Central Asia in 1944. “As a dictator Stalin has blood not just on his hands but up to his neck, and as a military leader his role was not so great,” Sergei Sigachev, the executive director of the Russian rights group Memorial said.

The writer Marietta Chudakova recently organised a protest letter by cultural figures and sent it to President Putin. “Just as the Germans cannot allow monuments to Hitler to be put up, so we cannot allow monuments to Stalin,” she said.

But the debate also reflects contemporary Russian politics. Those who support Stalin’s rehabilitation also argue that Russia needs a strong leader and support Mr Putin’s moves to curb democracy. Those fighting the Stalinist revival are among the President’s most vocal critics.

As on many sensitive political issues, the Kremlin itself sends mixed signals. Last week Sergei Lavrov, the Foreign Minister, denounced attempts to turn May 9 into a “jubilee of Stalinism”. Yet last year a memorial plaque to Volgograd on the Kremlin’s walls was replaced with one to Stalingrad. A history textbook critical of Stalin was also banned last year. This week Stalin’s famous wartime quote — “Our cause is just. Victory will be ours” — is splashed on posters in Moscow.

In many ways Mr Tsereteli embodies this ambivalence. His grandfather was shot on Stalin’s orders in 1937, and he says that he would never make a statue of him alone.

Yet he saw no conflict in making the Yalta monument and replicas for several Russian cities. “Remember,” he said, “people did not like the Eiffel Tower when it first went up.”

THE MAN OF STEEL
# Born Vissarion Jughashvili in 1879 in Gori, Georgia, where he is revered as a local hero

# In 1913 he changed his name to Stalin, or “man of steel”

# When Lenin died in 1924 he became leader of the USSR after a power struggle with his rival Trotsky

# Up to 5 million people died in famines in 1932 and 1933 caused by his forced collectivisation programme

# An estimated 1 million people were killed in his 1936-38 “purges” of the Party and the Red Army

# He deported an estimated 1.5 million people to Siberia and Central Asia in the 1940s

# He died in 1953 and was denounced by Nikita Khrushchev in his “secret speech” in 1956


9 posted on 05/10/2005 2:11:42 PM PDT by familyop
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