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HOW WE WOULD FIGHT CHINA
LA NUEVA CUBA ^
| June 2005
| Robert D. Kaplan
Posted on 05/10/2005 6:11:01 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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...the effect of a single Chinese cruise missile's hitting a U.S. carrier, even if it did not sink the ship, would be politically and psychologically catastrophic, akin to al-Qaeda's attacks on the Twin Towers. China is focusing on missiles and submarines as a way to humiliate us in specific encounters. Their long-range-missile program should deeply concern U.S. policymakers.
To: FlyLow; Semper Paratus; nickcarraway; Bald Eagle777; Iscool; ETERNAL WARMING; chemainus; Dat Mon; ..
To: hedgetrimmer
How will we fight them? As you know, I have written about one potential scenario...and it does not start out pretty at all.
The Dragon's Fury
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:14:23 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
To: hedgetrimmer
If they are going to sink one of our ships, they better do it with a Democrat as President.
Sure would not want to have a factory in China if that happens. Bye Bye Money.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:15:24 PM PDT
by
microgood
(Evolution is a Cancer on Conservatism)
To: hedgetrimmer
If China decided to go to war with us we could just not buy the crap they make. They'd be broke in four hours.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:18:20 PM PDT
by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
To: hedgetrimmer
Defend Taiwan and strengthen military ties with Japan.
To: Jeff Head
No nation has ever fought China with weapons and won. They can only be beaten from within (sound familiar ??)
1) Wreck the Yuan.
2) Impose 200% tariffs on all Chinese goods.
3) Support democratic reform with hard dollars.
4) Embargo all pro-chinese puppet states (south America)
5) Let the civil war take care of it's self.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:21:09 PM PDT
by
xcamel
(Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
To: hedgetrimmer
The Chinese navy is poised to push out into the Pacificâand when it does, it will very quickly encounter a U.S. Navy and Air Force unwilling to budge from the coastal shelf of the Asian mainland. Complete Nonsense.
Kaplan, meet Seawolf.
Before any Chinese vessel came within 500 miles of a US Carrier, it would end up scrap metal at the bottom of the sea. But long before any warships left China, they would be blocked by the smoking carcassus of Chinese Merchant Ships that tried to run our blockade.
For the flying things, meet AEGIS. You just cant escape, baby.
So what's left? Chinese subs? Oh please.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:21:44 PM PDT
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: hedgetrimmer
If they attack us, it's nuclear war.
Of course, judging from some of the boneheaded things the Chinese have done in the last 5 years, I don't discount that possibility.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:22:48 PM PDT
by
Brilliant
To: microgood
The problem here (if it is a problem) is that we don't want to use nukes, becasue China can also devastate our homeland. But the ultimate deterrent has to be the nukes. Why should we let China destroy our fleet? Admittedly, it is preferable to be able to beat them in a conventional war as well. But the nuke deterrent kept us from going toe to toe with the Soviets.
My bottom line is Bush ought to be expanding our navy, as Reagan did.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:22:48 PM PDT
by
Williams
To: hedgetrimmer
the effect of a single Chinese cruise missile's hitting a U.S. carrierCVX will have laser CIWS.
To: xcamel
My feeling has been that we need to treat them (Red China) as Reagan treated the Soviets in the 80's...or the present day version of the same. Which is is essence what you have written.
In the series, I am trying to make the point that the current scenario and "Permanent Favorite Nation Status" lead, IMHO, to very serious war, where to start we fare terribly...although in my series, we ultimately triumph after unbelievable carnage.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:24:20 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
To: hedgetrimmer
IMHO I don't think it would be much of a fight. I believe if you cut off the head of that "dragon", the body would not carry on the fight very long.
Take out the communist leadership, and I truly believe the other almost 1 billion Chinese long for freedom enough that the war would end rather quickly.
I don't know alot about the Chinese, but I assume theirs is not a volunteer army.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:25:21 PM PDT
by
rikkir
(The Dems see their demise, and his name is Delay!!)
To: hedgetrimmer
The Chinese have a paradox that they've yet to resolve. Communism and Capitalism are diametrically opposed to each other. As a result, they have far more internal problems than we do. And they refuse to address these. Corruption is endemic. The short-sighted policies concerning forced-abortion will haunt them big time. They are playing funny games with their economy.
The end result is that China may be little more than a hollow shell soon - if not now.
To: xcamel
6) Nuke them till they glow.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:27:25 PM PDT
by
DJ Taylor
(Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
To: wk4bush2004
The Carter administration should have never sold out Free China in favour of Red China. Once again profits were far more important then freedom.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:29:03 PM PDT
by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is never free.)
To: hedgetrimmer
By cutting off all aid and trade with COMMUNIST China.
To: hedgetrimmer
Fight? Our entire economy would collapse. Think Walmart, IBM, GM, Pepsi, Coca Cola, even our own soldiers' uniforms...Everything is made in China.
To: hedgetrimmer
A Chinese cruise missile attack has to penetrate layer after layer after layer of fleet air defense to get to a US carrier.
It would only be psychologically damaging to the MSM. It would enrage and motivate the sailors.
And as the other poster wrote. "meet Aegis" ...
The greatest threat is the diesel subs. They might get off one lucky snap shot before they died.
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posted on
05/10/2005 6:34:30 PM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitor)
To: wk4bush2004
The more important part of the equation is the "Will to Win" at home.
The Military will step up to the plate.
The Media on the other hand probably already has Chinese type plate and will never miss a day of publication, (Ads sold and everything) can't be enough wrong with the USA to suit them.
True atrocities have yet to be reported by the MSM and that works very well for those that commit atrocities, we haven't the stomach for what mankind is capable of, has committed and will commit in the future. If you project current news bias without much imagination, it will be illegal to arrest a Terrorist until after they blow themselves up.
Hey it's my rant I can say what I want.
TT
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