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'They Came Here to Die'
Washington Post ^ | 5/11/05 | Ellen Knickmeyer

Posted on 05/10/2005 10:05:54 PM PDT by saquin

JARAMI, Iraq, May 10 -- Screaming "Allahu Akbar'' to the end, the foreign fighters lay on their backs in a narrow crawl space under a house and blasted their machine guns up through the concrete floor with bullets designed to penetrate tanks. They fired at U.S. Marines, driving back wave after wave as the Americans tried to retrieve a fallen comrade.

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The Marines got their fallen man, suffering one more dead and at least five wounded in the process. And according to survivors of the battle, the foreign fighters near the Syrian border proved to be everything their reputation had suggested: fierce, determined and lethal to the last.

"They came here to die," said Gunnery Sgt. Chuck Hurley...

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According to Hurley and others who recounted the fighting that followed, Lima Company's Marines searched each house they passed. They turned up weapons cache after weapons cache: bombs made to be dropped from airplanes, a bicycle with a seat made of explosives and an antenna for remote-control triggering, a vest rigged with explosives, a car rigged with bombs, mortar tubes, rocket launchers with new backpacks full of rockets, artillery shells.

[...]

The Marines also found Soviet-designed PKM machine guns and belts of armor-piercing ammunition. In contrast, Lima Company was armed with M-16 assault rifles and carried nothing comparable -- nothing that could penetrate walls and floors and still pack enough force to kill.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cary; flypaperstrategy; iraq; martyrsiniraq; oif; oprationmatador; southwestasia; syria; westernfront
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While it's unsettling that our guys were outgunned by these terrorists, the good news is we killed them. A lot of them. And we are continuing to kill them. These terrorists are the hardest of the hard core and we're confronting them in their safe haven and killing them. That's good news for us and for Iraqis.
1 posted on 05/10/2005 10:05:54 PM PDT by saquin
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>>'They Came Here to Die'

Let us grant them their wish.


2 posted on 05/10/2005 10:08:00 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: saquin

Sounds like we have to hit them with overwhelming firepower from the air. I wouldn't waste my time with ground troops, bring back napalm.


3 posted on 05/10/2005 10:11:54 PM PDT by John Lenin (The truth is the opposite of whatever Dan Rather says it is)
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To: saquin
'They Came Here to Die'

To which the Austrailians reply: "No mate! They got 'ere yesti-die!"

4 posted on 05/10/2005 10:13:57 PM PDT by uglybiker (A woman's most powerful weapon is a guy's imagination.)
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To: struggle

>>'They Came Here to Die'

>>Let us grant them their wish.

Yes, and may Pork be upon them!


5 posted on 05/10/2005 10:14:10 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Electricity: the high priest of false security.)
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To: saquin

I only read the exerpt, but I thought the terrorists were described much too heroically, as compared to our marines.


6 posted on 05/10/2005 10:14:40 PM PDT by Williams
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To: saquin

Typical MSM stupidity in this article - incorrect facts about weapons.

The only tank made by a first world country in the last forty years that the PKM is going to ventilate with an AP round is our wretched Sheridan which is no longer on active service anywhere. The only APC we have that this thing can threaten is the M113, which is why we're not using any of them in high threat areas. 7.62x51R (the PKM round) is pretty much the Soviet twin to our own 7.62 NATO, and I'm pretty sure the Marines had a few of those around. Remember, the Marines carry the M240G in 7.62 rather than the POS M249 SAW.


7 posted on 05/10/2005 10:15:28 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Correction it's 7.62 x 54R.


8 posted on 05/10/2005 10:16:26 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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WaPo being a mouthpiece and motivator for the "rebels". In other news, the sky is blue.


9 posted on 05/10/2005 10:17:44 PM PDT by oolatec
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There's another WaPo article today that has this bit of good news:

Chase, the Marine officer, said local people were supporting the Americans' efforts. "We are getting a lot of information from the locals in the area and a very positive reception. They are giving up locations of where these people are hiding out, and each one drives another operation," he said.

Clashes Near Syria Begin to Wane

10 posted on 05/10/2005 10:18:19 PM PDT by saquin
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While I know we all hate anything that shows the terrorists as anything but incompetent boobs I don't think this article was particularly biased. It showed that they were determined and willing to die. Well trained. The best of the best. And guess what? We killed them. That's excellent news. These are the foreign fighters. The hard core. They've been hiding out in safety in the western desert, building car bombs, training, planning attacks. And now we've confronted them there. It won't be easy and Marines will be injured and killed, as this article shows. But we are killing them in great numbers. Killing just one of these hardcore guys is worth more than killing even ten or twenty low-level guys.


11 posted on 05/10/2005 10:23:00 PM PDT by saquin
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To: Williams

I thought so, too.


12 posted on 05/10/2005 10:24:26 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most...)
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To: saquin

God bless them Marines.


13 posted on 05/10/2005 10:25:16 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (To hell with Mexico, its policies, and its leaders)
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To: saquin

WP reporting here is about as stupid and incomprehensible drivel as anything I have ever read.


14 posted on 05/10/2005 10:28:05 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: saquin

The bottom line is that our Marines prevailed, the Islamofascist Bastards died.


15 posted on 05/10/2005 10:30:53 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Spktyr

"Correction it's 7.62 x 54R."

True, but as he said, it is comparable to the 7.62x51 (.308) Nato round.


16 posted on 05/10/2005 10:32:17 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Considering that I'm both the original poster and the corrector... ;)


17 posted on 05/10/2005 10:33:24 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: saquin

The enemy has no air support whatsoever. They are the ones outgunned by our helicopter and C-130 gunships.


18 posted on 05/10/2005 10:34:18 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Remember the MSM dreaded .50 Browning round. It can bring down jet fighters at ranges up to 20 miles, one hit from it can obliterate an M-60 battle tank, gang banger snipers use it for personal kills of innocent children at up to three miles. In short blither, blather, all in a lather, and for naught.

Also loved the bit where the terr perps Lay on their backs with the 7.62x54, shooting up through concrete floors and knocking out American tanks, me thinks those ricochets would be a bitch.
19 posted on 05/10/2005 10:41:18 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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"Considering that I'm both the original poster and the corrector... ;)"

mea culpa: I goofed


20 posted on 05/10/2005 10:43:02 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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