Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

No Star Wars for Oil
TechCentralStation.com ^ | 05-11-05 | Craig Winneker

Posted on 05/11/2005 6:39:05 AM PDT by EarthStomper

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-83 next last
To: EarthStomper

And who took down the Empire?

"I'm Han Solo. And I am the NRA."
"I'm Lando Calrisian. And I am the NRA."
"I'm Leia Organa. And I am the NRA."
"I'm Luke Skywalker. And I am the NRA."


21 posted on 05/11/2005 7:15:16 AM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: frgoff

Not only that, but Reagan admitted the mistake. Whne was the last time you heard a liberal admit to making any mistakes.
The most disgusting thing I ever saw was Bill Clinton on Oprah (I had to watch with my wife) he pretty much summed up his extramarital affair with Lewinsky as "The Republicans made me do it..." and of course, Oprah, the feminist who has ALWAYS put women's rights first, kissed his butt! Oprah's "all men are pigs" mantra clearly doesn't apply to liberal democrats.
My point is, liberals never admit to making mistakes. Never. Nixon did. Reagan did. Bush Sr. did. Bill Clinton never will, Jimmy Carter, never. It's a sad commentary on their political philosophy.


22 posted on 05/11/2005 7:15:45 AM PDT by Ragtop (We are the people our parents warned us about)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: EarthStomper
I doubt Stoppard had anything to do with it, since this stuff started with "Nute Gunray" and a number of similar political references in The Phantom Menace. More likely it's Lucas's own biases coming through.

The original statement by Bush was clear and principled: no civilized human being could take the side of the forces that had flown jetliners into the WTC. You are either with civilization, or you are with the barbarians. Some commentators took that to mean, "Either you support every strategy and tactic that the US decides to employ, or you are with the terrorists," which isn't what Bush said or meant.

23 posted on 05/11/2005 7:15:59 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DTogo
May favorite quote from that Weekly Standard piece:
In "The Empire Strikes Back" Captain Piett is quickly promoted to admiral when his predecessor "falls down on the job."

Classic.
24 posted on 05/11/2005 7:20:40 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Jeeves
Nute Gunray

It's been said that Lucas did that intentionally, because he resented how Reagan "hijacked" his films for the SDI project.

I can understand Lucas' viewpoint, though I do not agree with him. One must be sympathetic to a young director seeing his defining masterpiece used to promote something he finds abhorrent.

25 posted on 05/11/2005 7:21:59 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: ironfang
The movie is based off a series of novels, which were written long before the current state of political affairs. With that said, can anyone reference the novels to the movies and see if the dialogue or ideology is the same? Or is it different (which would show an obvious leftist plug). No comment until further research is completed.

Goerge Lucas only makes loose connections to the Expanded Universe (novels, games, non-fiction SW books and so on). For example C3PO was NOT built by Anikin Skywalker. He was build 112 years before A New Hope/Episode 4. Boba Fett was NOT the son of Jango Fett. He was a cop gone rogue. The Star Destroyers in Episode III should have been Victory-class destroyers rather than the Venator-class. There are tons of others but too many to list here.

Still, George Lucas wrote his 9-episode series before even A New Hope came out.

26 posted on 05/11/2005 7:24:23 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Beemnseven
The same country that we sided with during the Reagan Administration, when we could care less what Saddam Hussein did with those chemical weapons, rape rooms and mass graves.

You actually don't have any detailed memory of that time do you?

27 posted on 05/11/2005 7:26:49 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: RebelBanker; Lazamataz; EarthStomper; mewzilla; ironfang
The reference to liberty dying to thunderous applause is a reference to the rise of Nazism in Germany. The author of the review does not appear to have the knowledge of history that George Lucas demonstrates.

Yep. He lost me when he said Darth Sidious 'might' be Karl Rove. That is stretching things too far and trying to read meaning in everything.

And I am certain i can take anything, from the theatrical presentation of 'Little Women' to the made for TV 'War and Peace' and, with a smidget of imagination, find allusions and parallels with 'current events' as well as 'proving' how the characters are alluding to current politicians. And I would definitely make it seem stronger than saying Darth Sidious (Palpatine) 'might' be Karl Rove.

Palpatine 'might' also be the Easter Bunny and Sasquatch rolled into one.

Sometimes people read too little into some things, and too much into others. This is one case of someone seeing bogeymen under the bed where there are none. While there are certain allusions (for example strong ones with the rise of Nazism), it would be folly trying to see the entire Bush cabinet in SW:ROTS.

28 posted on 05/11/2005 7:26:56 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Ragtop

bttt


29 posted on 05/11/2005 7:27:02 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Ragtop
But I'm still seeing the movie. I'm waiting for a few days after the 19th, I just can't deal with the onslaught of people dressed up like Jedi wielding plastic light sabers anymore.

Here in D.C. they have already started lining up at the premiere theater, the Uptown, for next Wednesday night's openeing. Sheesh, get a life!

30 posted on 05/11/2005 7:27:51 AM PDT by Rummyfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Ragtop
In viewing most movies nowadays, I have to overlook many blatant allegorical references by filmakers trying to make a political statement rather than making a movie.

Sad but true. Ever see the sci-fi movie Paycheck? I lost all my respect for John Woo when I saw that anti-Iraq War piece of filth.

31 posted on 05/11/2005 7:27:53 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: jude24
It's been said that Lucas did that intentionally, because he resented how Reagan "hijacked" his films for the SDI project.

That is bogus. The Libs called SDI "Star Wars" as an insult to it. I believe Teddy K. was one of the first to publicly brand it thusly.

32 posted on 05/11/2005 7:30:34 AM PDT by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Little Ray
I have come to like the Empire a LOT more than I would ever like the the Republic...

I know what you mean. We need a Tarkin; "fear will keep the local systems in line." We must be absolutly ruthless when dealing with our enemies. If terrorists destroy one building, we nuke one of their cities. If they nuke a US city, then we nuke mecca, medina and the rest of their holy cities.

33 posted on 05/11/2005 7:40:44 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Paul_Denton

"mecca, medina and the rest of their holy cities."

You know, that would include Jerusalem (Al-Quds). I don't think the Israelis would like that very much.


34 posted on 05/11/2005 7:44:56 AM PDT by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Paul_Denton

If a movie stars Ben Affleck, I avoid it. Anyway, Hollywood has really cannibalized Phillip K. Dick stories. But that movie Paycheck looked like dud just from the previews.


35 posted on 05/11/2005 7:46:20 AM PDT by Ragtop (We are the people our parents warned us about)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: xusafflyer

I never meant Jerusalem. Well aside from that...


36 posted on 05/11/2005 7:46:50 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Rummyfan

It seems these people never shower either. When Episode I came out, we waited all day in line to get in. There were nerds "dueling" each other with plastic light sabers in the parking lot adjacent to the theater. And they stunk up the crowded theater. I vowed at that moment never to do that again.
Then came "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy. How quickly I forgot the lessons from Phantom Menace.
What can I say? I'm a sucker for opening day.


37 posted on 05/11/2005 7:49:13 AM PDT by Ragtop (We are the people our parents warned us about)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Paul_Denton
If they nuke a US city, then we nuke mecca, medina and the rest of their holy cities.

Nuking Holy City #3 might tick off the Israelis.

38 posted on 05/11/2005 7:49:41 AM PDT by Restorer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Paul_Denton
I lost all my respect for John Woo when I saw that anti-Iraq War piece of filth.

Not John Woo! He was a pretty rabid anti-communist at one time. Exposure to Hollywierd has warped his brain.
39 posted on 05/11/2005 7:51:00 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

Yeah it is about some device that can see into the future. Which includes a nuclear attack on Seattle in response of the US launching a preemptive strike against a nameless country. The enemy country is never mentioned but the angle that the ICBM warhead hits in the movie is obviously from North Korea. The moral of the movie was "no preemptive strikes to disarm enemies before they become a threat." though.


40 posted on 05/11/2005 7:55:47 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-83 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson