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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
I don't think any one here at FR has ever said climate change is a hoax..

What many of us have said is that the effect that humanity's actions have on the climate is negligible, at worst, more likely inconsequential..

I find it interesting that you use the term, "climate change"...
What happened to "Global Warming" ???

When we "naysayers" pointed out that global warming was the natural outcome of a swing from "global cooling", i.e., an ice age, suddenly, the term went out of use..
It was us "naysayers" that pointed out that it was warmer 1000 years ago than it is now, and that the so-called global warming was just "climate change".. a naturally occuring fluctuation in the global temperature that has been taking place for billions of years..

I have no doubt carbon emissions will be taxed..
I have no doubt that some businesses, especially energy corporations will eventually support it.
I also have no doubt that those corporations have found a way to pocket a percentage of those "fees" they will undoubtedly collect for the government...
The consumer will pay, and corporations and government will collude in profiting from a naturally occurring global climate pattern over which no one has any control..

In as little as 10 years we will know for sure whether you are right or I am..
In the meantime, I will simply accept that there is climate change and nothing I do will change it..
I will just do my best to stay comfortable..
And maybe start an orange grove here in Missouri..
Or a winery.. MO may be the new CA..

10 posted on 05/12/2005 2:49:30 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach
>>>I don't think any one here at FR has ever said climate change is a hoax>>>

There probably are very few things that haven't been said at FR, but I will agree that the more logical Freepers tend to take the inconsequential nature of human activity approach.

>>>I find it interesting that you use the term, "climate change"...
What happened to "Global Warming" ??? <<<<


In the United States "change" is considered good and therefore the term "Global Warming" is still used. However the reality is that in some places it might actually get colder although the overall effect will be an average rise in global temperatures. For instance, a shifting of the Gulf Stream might make Europe as cold as northern Canada with which it shares its latitude. The East Coast might also get colder. Thus, Climate Change is more appropriate a term insofar as that it does make people assume that things will only get warmer where they are.

As for the rest of your mail - you are absolutely correct.

By the way, can I visit you at your winery?
13 posted on 05/12/2005 2:56:16 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (“There is a law – a law of nature. Man is not the ruler.")
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To: Drammach

>> I don't think any one here at FR has ever said climate change is a hoax..

I say "global warming" is a hoax.

Climate change is inevitable.


16 posted on 05/12/2005 3:03:40 AM PDT by mmercier
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To: Drammach

Climate change is a hoax!!!!!


26 posted on 05/12/2005 3:27:09 AM PDT by Aussiebabe
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