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Bills Could Grant Legality To 10 Million Immigrants
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | May 12, 2005 | Jerry Kammer

Posted on 05/12/2005 8:46:37 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds

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To: Mamzelle

" Once they do have rights, the employers are going to want a fresh crop of illegals."


EGGGGGGGGGGSACTLY!


And how many more illegals will be strolling across our borders?

Shamnesty sucks big time. ESPECIALLY without secure borders.


81 posted on 05/12/2005 9:56:40 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Well I for one will be calling my congress critters to thank them for this legislation. I want to thank them for my loss of earning power, loss of jobs, higher taxes and my favorite, more 3rd world gangs to pillage and plunder while our government says welcome.
82 posted on 05/12/2005 9:58:39 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: 3AngelaD
If it passes the Senate, they can send it over to the House and bring it straight to the floor, bypassing Sesenbrenner's committee, if the House leadership were to allow that to occur.

'House leadership' is becoming an oxymoron these days.
83 posted on 05/12/2005 10:00:16 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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To: Travis McGee
"That is NOT going to go on for long. Our judges will NEVER permit a permanent "slave class" in the USA. This is what is going to happen instead, when the judiciary eventually takes up this case."

Illegals come here and pretend to be champions of hard labor filling jobs we lazy Americans don't want, LOL.

But their ultimate goal is to capture the American Dream so their children will be granted College Educations and bring the whole family out of U.S. poverty minimum wage. Their aim is to eventually escape the slave labor they now so willingly endure to live here.

The illegal cycle will continue..on and on, with no end in sight. I have no faith our gov't is even listening to it's citizens anymore.

sw

84 posted on 05/12/2005 10:01:16 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


85 posted on 05/12/2005 10:01:20 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Celtman
Pray tell, why not?

Logistics. Practicality. 10,000,000 illegal immigrants. Let's say we will deport all of them over the next 10 years, assuming no replacement illegals of that period and they all politely declined to re-enter the country. That's over 2700 deported each day, including weekends. If we as a nation were really really enthusiastic about the task, and citizens readily turned illegals in, maybe we could do it. But we aren't and we can't.

86 posted on 05/12/2005 10:01:28 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: lemura
...Nazi WWII propagana style of homes being raided, moms/kids being cuffed, etc...

My thoughts, too, but I figured I'd let someone else say it. :)

87 posted on 05/12/2005 10:04:22 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: lemura

"We need a system in place to legalize guest workers -..."


So you want to reward illegal?

You want amnesty?

I would RATHER that we give a 90 day window for these illegals to GTHO of here... back to their swill hole countries...and then APPLY for the "jobs that Americans don't want to do"... through the proper channels. If you do not have a job? You do not get to enter, plain and simple. Then tack on a 15 year moratorium to prevent them from soaking up any social services. Those that don't get out of Dodge in 90 days will EVENTUALLY be found and returned to their home country where they will have to wait ten years to re-apply for a work permit. Carrot and Stick approach.

NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW we can "talk"....ok?



Why should they be rewarded and put at the beginning of the line?


88 posted on 05/12/2005 10:04:49 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: gubamyster

BTTT


89 posted on 05/12/2005 10:06:03 AM PDT by in the Arena (Life may begin at 30, but it doesn't get real interesting until about 110.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
The sponsors [Kennedy, McCain, Gutierrez, Flake, & Kolbe] have scheduled a news conference today to kick off a publicity campaign. It will be coordinated withA fight to update that definition [of the word "amnesty"] has already broken out.

Bill Clinton has volunteered his services.

Both sides will eagerly await reaction from President Bush...

He will be throwing the biggest fiesta this country has ever seen and he'll be doing it on our dime.

90 posted on 05/12/2005 10:07:49 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Travis McGee

Neither is Kolbe.

91 posted on 05/12/2005 10:11:48 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: nosofar
We don't need to "round up and deport them."

All we need to do is cut them off from the Great American Mammary Gland, and they will go home all by themselves.

/1/ Enforce the Simpson-Mazzoli law, and go after buisinesses who hire illegals. (That is against the law, you might not know.)

/2/ No driver's licenses, period.

/3/ No tuition, no free education, period. (Can we get that in Mexico? NO!)

/4/ No free medical other than emergency, followed by a trip to the border for recovery in their home country.

/5/ No welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, period.

/6/ Change the current incorrect interpretation of the 14th Amd, which has led to the "anchor baby" situation, and chain-immigration under current "family reuinfication" laws, when the anchor baby reaches 18 years old.

Do the above, and there will be no need to "round up" 10-20 million illegals.

Give any form of amnesty to the current illegals, and get ready for 20 million more illegals in the next few years.

92 posted on 05/12/2005 10:12:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: nosofar

Tell you what. I'll bet that if we just started actively pursuing those on the lamb from deportation orders. And sent them back, testing the streamlined provisions in the realID bill. You would see such a shockwave many would pack it on on their own.

Should we experience the $20 tomato we are always hearing about, we simply reel in the deportations.


93 posted on 05/12/2005 10:13:14 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: johnlaw

No Joke, as if Mexico has records of that stuff anyway.
Here is the background check:
ICE: Have you ever done anything wrong?
Jose' Doe: "no abla english".
ICE: Congradulations son, your a yankee! Go next door for your rent, food and medical coverage. NEXT!
This crap is going to get lots of people killed.


94 posted on 05/12/2005 10:13:24 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Scenic Sounds
Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and John McCain, R-Ariz., will introduce the bill in the Senate.

Teddy's dead-set on finishing what he started in 1965

....the annihilation of this country.

And many so-called conservatives are only too willing to help him.

95 posted on 05/12/2005 10:13:25 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: OXENinFLA
F'ing McPAIN!!!


Bump
96 posted on 05/12/2005 10:16:09 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: Mamzelle
The irony is--the advantage of hiring illegals is that they are illegal and operate in a black market of labor.

Yes, to some extent. But millions of third world immigrants, even if legal, will still pull down wages. It is not just the issue of legality, but the volume of immigration that must be addressed.

97 posted on 05/12/2005 10:16:50 AM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: The100thMonkey
Bush's plan does nothing to stop social services being given to "guest workers".

That's why I said Bush's 'basic idea'. I don't really know the details of his plan.

98 posted on 05/12/2005 10:18:17 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Travis McGee
To: nosofar We don't need to "round up and deport them." All we need to do is cut them off from the Great American Mammary Gland, and they will go home all by themselves. /1/ Enforce the Simpson-Mazzoli law, and go after buisinesses who hire illegals. (That is against the law, you might not know.) /2/ No driver's licenses, period. /3/ No tuition, no free education, period. (Can we get that in Mexico? NO!) /4/ No free medical other than emergency, followed by a trip to the border for recovery in their home country. /5/ No welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, period. /6/ Change the current incorrect interpretation of the 14th Amd, which has led to the "anchor baby" situation, and chain-immigration under current "family reuinfication" laws, when the anchor baby reaches 18 years old. Do the above, and there will be no need to "round up" 10-20 million illegals. Give any form of amnesty to the current illegals, and get ready for 20 million more illegals in the next few years.

Excellent post!

99 posted on 05/12/2005 10:18:35 AM PDT by MRMEAN (Nuke the border!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
It simply amazes me that this conscienceless killer is a life-long American Senator, and is not cursed, spit upon and reviled by all honorable Bostonians.


100 posted on 05/12/2005 10:18:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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