Skip to comments.Chaplain Wants Christ Out of Air Force Academy
Posted on 05/12/2005 12:41:32 PM PDT by wagglebee
Heres a story that will throw you for a loop: a "chaplain at the U.S. Air Force Academy is complaining that the schools administration has a "systemic and pervasive problem of promoting religious religious values with a Christian bent.
The chaplain, Capt. Melinda Morton, a "Lutheran minister spoke out publicly on Tuesday as an Air Force task force arrived at the academy to investigate charges that officers and staff members pushed their religious beliefs on cadets.
And she claimed that a tolerance program developed at the academy, called Respecting the Spiritual Values of all People (R.S.V.P.), was watered down after it was shown to officers.
Maj. Gen. Charles C. Baldwin, chief of chaplains for the Air Force, screened the 90-minute R.S.V.P. film in October, according to Capt. Morton, and asked her: "Why is it that the Christians never win? in reaction to some of the programs depictions of cadet interactions.
"Chaplain Mortons complaints about too much religion at the military academy is creating waves, and earned her hero status in a report in the New York Times Thursday.
Gen. Baldwin acknowledged in an interview that he felt too many scenes in the film portrayed Christians at fault for excessive evangelical proselytizing.
He also said he asked that the Air Force cut segments on non-Christian religions such as Buddhism, Judaism and Native American spirituality.
The problem in dealing with proselytizing and church-state issues at the academy, he explained, "always is, when is a person crossing the line, or when are they being a positive person of faith, like our president.
Last year, the Colorado Springs academy invited Yale Divinity School professor Kristen Leslie and six Yale graduate students to visit the school and observe how the chaplains minister to the cadets.
A memo from the Yale team cited the "stridently evangelical themes at a worship service attended by 600 new cadets.
Leslie said a chaplain urged cadets to pray for those who didnt attend and "remind them of the consequences ... those not born again will burn in the fires of hell.
But academy spokesman Johnny Whitaker disputed that account, saying several other chaplains told him that no one mentioned burning "in the fires of hell.
Morton, a 48-year-old "Lutheran minister," said she was removed from her post as executive officer to the chief chaplain, Col. Michael Whittington, last week. She claimed the dismissal came after he pressured her to deny details of what happened at the religious service.
But Whitaker said Whittington sent Morton an e-mail on May 4 saying he was removing her "to ensure a smooth and complete transition for new leaders.
Morgan said she had stepped forward because "its the Constitution, not just a nice rule we can follow or not follow. That includes not using your power to advance your religious agenda.
She acknowledged that after speaking out, "I dont think I have much future in the Air Force.
And hopefully no future as a Lutheran minister either.
Women shouldn't be pastors in the first place.
Agreed. I think her agenda is getting in the way of her Christianity.
Dollars to donuts she's a member of the N.C.C.
Well, I always thought he was more of the peaceful type and not a fighter anyway. I'm not sure he would want to be in the Air Force. :-)
"And finally, Jesus, I want to thank you for another beautiful day of life, and the opportunity to serve you in the United States Air Force, where I can continue my fight to remove all reference to you and the rest of the Trinity, and . . . "
Or lesbians (hey, while we're on a role. *smile*)
Someone needs to have a nice long career in the Air Force. I believe that there's an opening for base chaplain up at Elmendorf AFB in Alaska. I'm sure that her services would be needed up there for the remainder of her career or until she resigns.
LOL!!! Wouldn't want to be flying next to that chaplain.
Me thinks this "chaplin" just likes wearing combat boots.
Chaplain Wants Christ Out of Air Force Academy.
What if He won't go?
I am glad that Jesus wasn't politically correct.....
Dear Madam pastor:
Jesus did not come to bring peace to the world.
He wanted to find out who was worthy.
When asked if they believed in the virgin birth of Jesus: 60 percent of Methodists said "No.' 44 percent of Episcopalians said No." 49 percent of Presbyterians said "No." 34 percent of Baptists said "No." 19 percent of American Lutherans said "No. 5percent of Missouri Synod Lutherans said "No."
When asked if they believed that the Scriptures are the inspired and inerrant Word of God in faith, history, and secular matters: 87 percent of Methodists said 'No.' 95 percent of Episcopalians said 'No." 82 percent of Presbyterians said "No." 67 percent of American Baptists said "No." 77 percent of American Lutherans said "No." 24 percent of Missouri Synod Lutherans said "No."
Point: even many "theologians" are unsound re basic Christian principles.
A few years back I worked with a kid who was attending school to become a minister. I was suprised when he told me that he was a "pessimistic agnostic". Now I understand the goal of his kind.
It's a funny thing how when someone doesn't agree with you the Constitution is always trotted out............this Chaplin is a Progressive - always remember that the Lord is constant...she can't have it both ways.
"Women shouldn't be pastors in the first place."
Amen. This illustrates why.
This woman looks so much like a dike.
Who are these "American Baptists"? I'm guessing that isn't the Southern Baptist Convention.
So why did she bother becoming a chaplain anyway? This just doesn't add up.
Christ wants Chaplain out of Air Force
That's a manufactured quote if I ever read one.
That's like getting on a plane and hearing the pilot say that he doesn't have a clue how to fly.
Is there anyone left in this world (like me) that can go their entire life without needing that fleeting moment of infamy? ;)
Too bad she doesn't feel the same about the bible.
<< Women shouldn't be pastors in the first place. >>
If one is called "pator" it but changes the definition of the word "pastor" to include whatever the Hell it is she is!
Bit like calling what male and female faggots simulate with one another "sex" or -- God forbid -- "love" or "marriage."
I'm surprised that LCMS pastors were so negative on the Scriptures.
That proves the fact that a lot of them are unfit for their jobs.
Hell, our schools are full of teachers who can't read and write, this is the same thing.
"" Chaplain Wants Christ Out of Air Force Academy ""
She'd be better to get the Hell outta there!
Too many people join the Clergy for money and power not because they believe in Christ.
AHHHHHHH! A Beast!!
Sir. I don't believe your poll. Please give your reference.
If they don't believe the Bible then what the hell are they basing their ministry on? Walden?
"complaining that the schools administration has a "systemic and pervasive problem of promoting religious religious values"
Virtues like fidelity, charity and compassion?
Right on! The Bible speaks clearly to this issue.
AFA starts sensitivity training (03/30/05)
Respect for religious diversity is emphasized
"The issue is not about religion," said Chaplain Capt. Melinda Morton, who led the training. "It's about respecting everyone's right to believe as they choose."
That's essential in an environment dominated by power hierarchies, she said, because cadets can perceive they'd score points by adopting an instructor's or military leader's religious beliefs.
Laws and policies mandate equal opportunity regardless of religious affiliation - a tenet imperative to carrying out the mission, she said.
He said something like "Think not that I have come to bring peace on earth, I bring not peace but a sword".
Elmendorf is nice. She should go to Thule, Greenland.
ELCA press release (search for Melinda Morton)
If you want to read something really offensive to anyone who knows, loves and serves Christ Jesus, read this link.
Isn't there some Air Force installation in Antarctica, now that I think about it?
Morton was teaching an RSVP Respecting the Spiritual Values of all People class, a 50-minute exercise in trying to stop what critics called a culture of intolerance on campus. Over the last four years, there have been 55 complaints of insensitivity, many dealing with alleged harassment of religious minorities by evangelical Christians.
Cadets and employees are being told they can't proselytize on campus, use government e-mail to send religious messages, put up posters with religious themes or use positions of authority to endorse a particular faith. They must also attend one RSVP class.
About 90% of cadets here are Christian and many of them, as well as teachers and high-ranking officers, are evangelical.
Academy Commandant Brig. Gen. Johnny Weida is a self-described born-again Christian. Last year, football coach Fisher DeBerry hung a banner in the athletic complex that said, "I am a Christian first and last I am a member of Team Jesus Christ." He later removed it and underwent sensitivity counseling.
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