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Chaplain Wants Christ Out of Air Force Academy
NewsMax ^ | 5/12/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 05/12/2005 12:41:32 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: af_vet_1981

Where did jealousy enter into it?

This...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1401963/posts?page=318#309

was not called for. One does not need to believe that matriarchy is a good thing, nor does one need to have "limp wrists" to have made the post you were responding to.


321 posted on 05/13/2005 12:37:15 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly; annyokie
One does not need to believe that matriarchy is a good thing, nor does one need to have "limp wrists" to have made the post you were responding to.

Annyokie was complaining about the religious temperature on FreeRepublic. I thought she might enjoy the climate change at DU. All you have to do is bash People of Faith and praise the Matriarchy there.

Of course it helps if you are a homosexual addict too. I think you get a special rate at DU for that orientation.

322 posted on 05/13/2005 12:41:12 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
All you have to do is bash People of Faith and praise the Matriarchy there.

I have seen that there, just as I've seen more than my share of patriarchal misuse of religion at FR. I would like to see a wider use of the golden rule here, but maybe that's just me. That is what I felt I was doing when I struck up the "conversation" I did with Annyokie. Rather than seeing her devolve into just bashing, I was trying to show her another path.

I think you get a special rate at DU for that orientation.

Yes, I think you're correct. The liberal mind is constantly shuffling people around into different "favored" classes.

I still ponder your jealousy statement.

323 posted on 05/13/2005 12:56:54 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
I still ponder your jealousy statement.

It was an observation about the longstanding and complex relationship between "this" and "that." They have been at it for years.

Decades

Centuries

324 posted on 05/13/2005 1:06:19 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981

Ah, finally! No, you're wrong. God did not make a mistake when He made me the way He made me, thankyouverymuch. One is not *better* than the other & I would have to believe otherwise to be jealous.


325 posted on 05/13/2005 1:35:53 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
Luke 24:10 & 11 might help you understand why.

I guess I don't get your point.

Those verses only show that the disciples didn't believe that Jesus had risen until they saw him themselves. I think it is very likely that if the situation had been reversed and a disciple had come and told the women that Jesus was alive they would not have believed him any more readily than the men believed the women's report.

IOW, I don't believe the disciple's doubting of the report had anything to do with the inferior position of women in that culture. Furthermore, I suspect that you and I would not have believed the women either if we had seen Jesus crucified and buried 3 days prior to their report.

326 posted on 05/13/2005 1:41:10 PM PDT by epow
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To: annyokie
Oh gosh not you again!! Lets guess- someone has said something mean to you? Someone has insulted you? Someone has been an extremist again?

People like you are one half of the problem with this forum right now. If Freepers and Christians bug you so much why do you keep showing up to taunt them? Could it be to troll for a different website? Why yes I think it is. Couldn't you be finding interesting articles to post there? Oh, why waste your time with something constructive?!?!

You have the resources for posting to some interesting people- all over the internet and yet here you are.

You insult people, say nasty things, incite people and mock their religion. And then you play hurt little girl. There are plenty of threads which are not talking about religion right now- if it bothers you to see people talking about Christianity so much why not go someplace else?

There are support our troops threads and activism threads- on how many topics- why not get working on one of those things.

You always claim to be the victim, on whatever the topic happens to be- You always show up to tell everyone that your feelings have been hurt- and you pout about the direction you think FR has taken.

Why not create something then? Why are you always riding every one else's coat tails? No one is stopping you from contributing articles- here or there- have you ever done that under any of your names?

Why don't you find some purpose for your life other then, "Oh hey I think I will make fun of people today."

You are no prize either Annyokie.Look at the foolishness you spend your time on right now. I wonder if your son would think your little internet war is as big of a deal as you do.

No one is stopping you from starting another website. GO - DO- create it. You aren't going after people here who have hurt you in any way.

I am sick of your pity party.

All you are interested in life- it appears- is insulting people- nothing more. I would say you have much bigger concerns than what is going on on FR.

You have chastised way more people in your history here then the average five freepers put together.

327 posted on 05/13/2005 1:58:21 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: epow
Those verses only show that the disciples didn't believe that Jesus had risen until they saw him themselves.

Based on scripture, they should have expected the news. You didn't see that He rose with your own eyes, have you? You sound like you expect less faith from the Disciples than all of those following after.

I think it is very likely that if the situation had been reversed and a disciple had come and told the women that Jesus was alive they would not have believed him any more readily than the men believed the women's report.

Think if God intended men to be the only ones to spread the good news, He might have made sure the first to discover it would have been men? It was not so much about who God selected to be the messenger, but whether or not there was truth to the message.

IOW, I don't believe the disciple's doubting of the report had anything to do with the inferior position of women in that culture. Furthermore, I suspect that you and I would not have believed the women either if we had seen Jesus crucified and buried 3 days prior to their report.

Yet, you & I both believe it now. Why?

328 posted on 05/13/2005 2:03:23 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

"Go sit down" as I tell my dogs.


329 posted on 05/13/2005 2:12:17 PM PDT by annyokie ("Guess what. I got a fever...and the only prescription...is more cowbell.")
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To: annyokie
Hit a sore spot huh? You know it is the truth.

So? Get over it.

Hate will only tear you apart Annyokie-Build something positive for yourself and you will feel much better.

Now - try and have a good night. I know I will.

330 posted on 05/13/2005 2:32:53 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Why do you spend your time writing epistles to me? I believe that says more about you than me.


331 posted on 05/13/2005 2:51:58 PM PDT by annyokie ("Guess what. I got a fever...and the only prescription...is more cowbell.")
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To: GoLightly
Think if God intended men to be the only ones to spread the good news, He might have made sure the first to discover it would have been men? It was not so much about who God selected to be the messenger, but whether or not there was truth to the message.

I try not to speculate on why God did anything he has done or why he does anything he does now. He is the infinitely wise sovereign Lord of all creation, and I am not. I do however try to understand what he is saying to us today through inspired holy scripture, and I am convinced that the historic teaching of the church on the issue of women pastors and/or bishops is the true will of God concerning that issue.

I hold no animosity toward women pastors, and I do not condemn a woman's aspiration to the position of church pastor IF she is acting out of a sincere conviction that she is called to that position. I personally believe that such women are mistaken in that conviction because it is inconsistent with the revealed will of God.

But I do however object to those women who go into the pastoral ministry for the primary purpose of asserting their equality with men. I have no problem whatsoever in accepting the fact that women are the equal of men in practically all areas of life not involving physical strength, or that they are superior to men in many areas.But I also accept the revealed will of God in the matter of spiritual authority in the church and home. It of course follows that I also believe in the scripturally assigned role of men as the head of the family, and I suspect that position will earn me more scorn from the dissenting side of the aisle. But nevertheless I believe that when women who become pastors and the churches which ordain them ignore his instructions to the church, they are overstepping the bounds set by God himself concerning authority in the church body.

Please understand that I am not by any means saying that women should remain silent and out of sight in the church or in the home, far from it. Women can and do serve the Lord in many important and prominent positions in the church and in many other Christian ministries. My own daughter holds a fairly important post in a Christian ministry. She is editor in chief of English language publications for a large foreign mission organization. According to the leadership of that organization she does an excellent job, much better than her male predecessor, and I very much appreciate her dedication to the work of evangelizing neglected people in the most difficult areas of the world. But she willingly accepts that God has not called and will not call her to a position of authority over men in the church. In other vital roles within the Christian community, an emphatic yes, but not in the pastor's role.

332 posted on 05/13/2005 4:20:04 PM PDT by epow
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To: af_vet_1981

They may have raped the women with or without their selection as a rabbi over the congregation. It is irrelevant to the issue of why it was Jews in that area were forced to select women!


333 posted on 05/13/2005 4:22:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Petronski; Marshal Zhukov
Proselytizing is not at all harmful. On the other hand, what is a problem in this world are the Bluenoses who want everybody to stay in his or her place as though we are all obligated to accept our fate without hope.

Better a world without Bluenoses than one without Proselytizers.

334 posted on 05/13/2005 4:25:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GoLightly; XR7

Which, having been said, means that with God as the authority of our church, it really doesn't matter who teaches.


335 posted on 05/13/2005 4:28:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: everyone

The Academy's big mistake was to invite a bunch of Yalies in to tell them what to do ... Conservatives will never be in charge of this country -- indeed, we will never get a fair shake -- as long as it's the liberals we turn to for "expertise."


336 posted on 05/13/2005 4:28:20 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: GoLightly

This question has been around a long time. In the end the first prophesy regarding the coming of the Messiah to the Jews specified there would be a "virgin with child". You don't get the "child" without the "virgin".


337 posted on 05/13/2005 4:33:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: annyokie; Diva Betsy Ross
Epistles?

Annyokie why didn't you ask me why I write condemnatory notes to you?

The time to be polite is over. Think of some of us as Peter with a sword in hand smiting ears and such.

338 posted on 05/13/2005 4:35:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TexasCajun

I am Lutheran and I believe in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I suggest you pick up a copy of Luther's small catechism. You should read it before you make stupid posts like the one I replied to.

...for the record. The 'minister' in this story would not have a job in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod.


339 posted on 05/13/2005 4:38:44 PM PDT by GWfan
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To: GWfan; TexasCajun
I'd earlier posted the thought that this particular Lutheran minister seems to be as negative about what the non-Lutheran lay persons did during the service as any Missouri Synod minister might be BUT, and this is a really, really, really big but, she just had to be a different kind of minister!

Missouri Synod folks wouldn't be present (for one thing), and even if they were they'd probably be more polite in expressing concern ~ namely, they wouldn't volunteer it, and would express concern (most likely existential angst) only if forced to state something.

Most folks are not aware that there are DIFFERENT KINDS OF LUTHERANS, and it's better to educate them than to just complain about ignorant statements they might make. Given the Captains name I'm guessing it's some sort of Scandinavian synod that ordained her ~ and that right there could be symptomatic of a "problem" in Scandinavia where Pentacostalism and Islam are the fastest growing religious movements (there being different kinds of them as well). The people are abandoning Lutheranism in Scandinavia quite rapidly.

340 posted on 05/13/2005 4:50:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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