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Everyone's a winner in girls' 400 relay (Nice story)
Pittsburg Post-Gazette ^ | Mike White

Posted on 05/13/2005 11:16:27 AM PDT by fso301

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To: blau993
Those young ladies and their coaches are heros in my book.

And they say people throw about the term "hero" too lightly these days . . .

(eyes rolling)

21 posted on 05/13/2005 11:30:09 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: fso301

I wonder how the team who will finish second to them at States will feel about this. Robbed, I'm sure.


22 posted on 05/13/2005 11:30:24 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: fso301
1) A good gesture by the teams that decided to step aside.

2) However the teams that LOST but was allowed to win should also have made a good gesture of their own ....and refused to take the winning position based on the simple fact that they lost.

23 posted on 05/13/2005 11:30:25 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: dsmatuska
Even better sportsmanship would have been to urge the other teams not to step aside

Exactly. In all fairness, the Penn Hills girls should refuse their offers to step aside.

24 posted on 05/13/2005 11:31:03 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Wolfie
For that matter, why keep score at all? Let everbody go to State. And by all means, make sure everbody gets a trophy.

Super! Everybody gets a chance to hit! Nobody makes an out! Let's go get an ice cream! Wee!

25 posted on 05/13/2005 11:31:12 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: crushkerry

It was Norwin, the sixth place team that deserves the lion's share of the plaudits. They finished among the top 8 in sixth place. The other two teams were 9th and 10th so they would not have gone if the results stood. I credit Norwin for making the sacrifice for Penn Hills. Norwin was the catalyst.


26 posted on 05/13/2005 11:31:26 AM PDT by kabar
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Somewhere, somehow, someone other than the runners benefited from this.


27 posted on 05/13/2005 11:32:16 AM PDT by vollmond (Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails.)
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To: Redcloak

Yes, they lost and they accepted it with broken hearts, but they never asked for special treatment. It was by the graciousness of OTHER teams that moved them into the finals. It is the type of story of selflessness that we need to see more often.


28 posted on 05/13/2005 11:32:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I graduated from Penn Hills, just outside of Pittsburgh. Maybe this will catch on and the hapless Pirates can get into the playoffs.


29 posted on 05/13/2005 11:33:08 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: fso301
Misfortune and failure build character.

Which would be a far more valuable lesson for these children than any glory they might attain winning some stupid high sports competition.

30 posted on 05/13/2005 11:33:40 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: camle

They probably would have won. They were the favorite.


31 posted on 05/13/2005 11:33:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: gdani
Sometimes, life sucks. The answer isn't to give them a bye. To do so defeats the whole point of athletic competition.

Not the same thing imo. If the team that had the girl fall was the one demanding it, I'd agree. However, as far as I can tell, three teams, without outside pressure voluntarily forfeited.

How many times have we seen Olympians (ice-skaters, track/field, etc) screw up just the same and suffer the consequences?

Countless times which is why this case is so different.

32 posted on 05/13/2005 11:33:46 AM PDT by fso301
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To: drjimmy
This was a great gesture that is the very definition of good sportsmanship.

Baloney: good sportsmanship means being a good winner and a good loser. Good winners don't step aside so that the loser can "win."

33 posted on 05/13/2005 11:34:09 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: fso301
Misfortune and failure build character.

Which would be a far more valuable lesson for these children than any glory they might attain winning some stupid high sports competition.

34 posted on 05/13/2005 11:34:38 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Semper Paratus

"Similar to a basketball player for a girls HS team who broke her foot and was 1 point shy of the school record and the other team let her hobble downcourt for an uncontested layup."

I think our kids are going to make despite us.


35 posted on 05/13/2005 11:35:45 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Misfortune and failure build character.

Someone told me once: Misfortune doesn't build good character, it reveals it.
36 posted on 05/13/2005 11:35:46 AM PDT by dsmatuska
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"...a nation of pussies"

You're brother-in-law is correct! Life is full of disappointments, which make the accomplishments even sweeter. Big "f"ing deal. One of them fell. Relays alway run the risk of one of runners falling. Geez!
37 posted on 05/13/2005 11:35:58 AM PDT by poobear
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Like I said, the team that finishes second to them at the chamionships is gonna feel rightly robbed.


38 posted on 05/13/2005 11:35:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: spetznaz
2) However the teams that LOST but was allowed to win should also have made a good gesture of their own ....and refused to take the winning position based on the simple fact that they lost.

Agree 100%

39 posted on 05/13/2005 11:36:00 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Wolfie
Maybe this will catch on and the hapless Pirates can get into the playoffs.

!!!!

Inspired by the sacrifice of these young women, I'm going to start a campaign right now to encourage the Red Sox, the Yanks, the Orioles, and the Jays to step aside and allow the Devil Rays to take the AL East. After all, why not give someone else a chance to feel groovy?

40 posted on 05/13/2005 11:37:28 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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