Posted on 05/13/2005 3:32:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07
WASHINGTON (BP)--When a federal marriage amendment failed in Congress last year, a number of senators -- including Democrat Joseph Lieberman and Republican John McCain -- opposed it on the grounds that states should be able to decide the issue on their own.
Now that a federal judge has struck down Nebraska's marriage amendment -– despite voter approval by a 70-30-percent margin in 2000 -- conservatives are hoping those same senators will give a federal marriage amendment another look.
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Certainly not McCain and Lieberman.
Worth a ping to the list?
I know, you're all shocked.
Getting worse and worse John.
I have no interest in sodomy. Please don't ping me to material like this or anything else you're interested in.
Boo hoo. Good thing the tyranny of the majority won't get its way.
Government should get out of the marriage business altogether.
LOL. Your sense of humor could use a touch of ID, evolution didn't get the job done.
Oh I see, you're one of the tyranny of the minority, judicail oligarch kind of guys.
ping for later.
I agree with Mr. Cornyn
I was wrong, but believe me, I won't make the same mistake again.
You might find this of some interest even if Patrick doesn't. And believe me when I say that I am not implying that any of you have a prurient interest in sodomy.
You didn't. These are bad times for Darwinians. This is a good example of a great design(the constitution) and the effects of random mutations on a good design. Think of what would happen if these random mutations happened on something not designed at all.
Exactly, get the state out of this business. You know the state sanction of marriages is fairly new concept (only been going on for what 2 or 3 hundred years?). In the bad old days before that only the wealthy or royalty got married to create familial alliances. The common people formed marriages either informally amongst themselves or in conjunction with their local religious institutions. The state wasn't involved in any of this.
With respect to Homo's getting married, for the life of me I do not understand why other people care. It is offensive to me that some Americans would go out of their way to impinge on the liberty of other Americans. It makes me want to kick their ass.
I'd gathered from reports that the ruling was wholly based on Lawrence. And it is. But this judge's effort to expand Lawrence comes across to me as a pathetic defense of Lawrence.
The Bill of Attainder discussion is... weird.
"...a legislative act that singles out a group and restricts its ability to effect political change amounts to punishment and can be a bill of attainder."
The restriction being merely that the law the "group" ( which the judge, in another part of the ruling, says includes nearly everyone: "roommates, co-tenants, foster parents, and related people who share living arrangements, expenses, custody of children, or ownership of property.") wants to change is in the constitution.
and...
"This is tantamount to denial of access to the means to effect any sort of social or political change. The knowledge that any such proposed legislation violates the Nebraska Constitution chills or inhibits advocacy of that legislation, as well as impinging on freedom to join together in pursuit of those ends."
IE: A constitutional amendment (as opposed to a law) is ipso facto a restraint on it's opponents First Amendment rights!
LOL - careful - he'll ping the mod for speaking to him without permission.
Yeah, I thought that was exceptionally poetic myself. Nothing to do with the Constitution but very poetic indeed. Justice Kennedy beware.
Yeah, me too. What do you think we should do with the folks who support the federal judges who inpinge on the rights of the citizens of the states in direct contravention of the Tenth Amendment and the guarantee of a republican form of government?
Oh, I don'r doubt it for a minute. Some folks are so focussed on their tree they just don't notice the feds pissing on their leg. Such is life.
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